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What's the point of a Prince of Wales?

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volver Sun 11-Sept-22 09:42:53

I believe the Prince of Wales is basically the top bod in the hierarchy in Wales and has been an Englishman since the 14th Century. I understand it is an expression of the rule of the English over the Welsh.

I have googled the role of the Prince and Princess of Wales and it appears to be to visit as many places in the country as possible and learn to speak Welsh. Personally I find the conferring of titles such as this on Royals a patronising anachronism, having once had to explain to a French person that the Duke of Edinburgh didn't really run Edinburgh.

What do Welsh people think about the whole thing?

AGAA4 Mon 12-Sept-22 17:14:04

I don't feel honoured to have a prince of Wales. I have nothing against William but honoured? Not at all.

Aveline Mon 12-Sept-22 17:10:37

I disagree. No 'mass hysteria' in the crowds I joined in Edinburgh. Just quiet respect. The atmosphere was very pleasant and certainly not hysterical. Quite solemn and striking as the hearse passed by.

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 17:09:05

I don't understand the clapping.

At one time it would be a bowed head and silence as a hearse passed by.

Fleurpepper Mon 12-Sept-22 17:07:53

Rowantree

There's adoration and worship wall-to-wall on the media. People distraught as if the woman was a family member or close friend. She wasn't. Mass hysteria IMO.

Thought just the same at the time of Diana.

There is quiet, deep respect

and this, mass hysteria. I am pretty sure the Queen would have hated it.

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 16:56:36

Now this is a serious question, before I get accused of fomenting insurrection...

Why is it an honour grannyrebel7?

grannyrebel7 Mon 12-Sept-22 16:55:09

I'm Welsh and I love having a Prince and Princess of Wales. I can't see a problem with it. In fact I think it's an honour that the Scottish and Irish don't have. I don't mind that they're both English.

Casdon Mon 12-Sept-22 16:51:35

volver

I think then the response will be something like, "well its been working fine for a year so why change it?"

Its never the right time for some.

But there were some illuminating answers, that don't call for revolution. We have to talk about things, not keep quiet because its considered by some as "not the right time."

Why, when it just puts peoples backs up and makes their position more entrenched? That’s what Mark Drakeford is saying, I agree with him. What would happen if it was debated with the people of Wales now and there was say, a referendum, would be to keep with tradition, because that is the national mood.

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 16:50:44

Thegrandmarniter

If not Michael Sheen, then Huw Edwards. Sorry I’ll shut up now. I sense this thread coming to an end. What a good one. Well done Volver.

Now you're talking - Huw! ?

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 16:49:58

Declaring a new Prince of Wales with no discussion with the people of Wales wasn’t right

That's just the opinion of the little-known Ifan Morgan Jones.

Thegrandmarniter Mon 12-Sept-22 16:47:23

If not Michael Sheen, then Huw Edwards. Sorry I’ll shut up now. I sense this thread coming to an end. What a good one. Well done Volver.

Grany Mon 12-Sept-22 16:43:51

Declaring a new Prince of Wales with no discussion with the people of Wales wasn’t right

nation.cymru/opinion/declaring-a-new-prince-of-wales-with-no-discussion-with-the-people-of-wales-wasnt-right/

Opinion, thought could have waited, done in haste.

Callistemon21 Mon 12-Sept-22 16:43:44

Anniebach

I want Michael Sheen, a daft question needs a daft answer

But he's far too hairy! (See other thread complaining about the King ?)

Anniebach Mon 12-Sept-22 16:37:56

I want Michael Sheen, a daft question needs a daft answer

Pantglas2 Mon 12-Sept-22 16:14:20

Well if the Spanish can put up with the likes of Juan Carlos and move seamlessly to Felipe I’m sure us Welsh can tolerate young William for a year before deciding to get rid!

And no, we don’t want a political PoW, magnificent though Sheen’s acting skills are!

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 16:06:36

I think then the response will be something like, "well its been working fine for a year so why change it?"

Its never the right time for some.

But there were some illuminating answers, that don't call for revolution. We have to talk about things, not keep quiet because its considered by some as "not the right time."

Casdon Mon 12-Sept-22 16:02:47

volver

It was only partly rhetorical Casdon because some people keep saying what a good Prince of Wales William will be, and others are saying its just a title and doesn't matter. So it is a puzzle to me.

I really was interested in the replies but obviously asking any question at all about the RF at the moment is anathema.

I do think that’s right volver, it’s just not the right time for everybody to fully enter into a debate. We will have a better idea of how the land lies in a year’s time when the present high emotion has calmed. Not that it was wrong to ask the question, just that the answer is likely to be tempered by experience. If you remember, why not revive the thread then and see how people feel?

Anniebach Mon 12-Sept-22 16:00:49

Definitely Michael Sheen

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 16:00:32

Franco knew he was doing the right thing

There's a sentence I never thought I'd read. ?

Pantglas2 Mon 12-Sept-22 15:59:09

Initially volver - the people have had 5 decades to change their minds so Franco knew he was doing the right thing obviously!

Thegrandmarniter Mon 12-Sept-22 15:53:07

Before I’m shot down, I know Michael Sheen wouldn’t want it, he’s argued so eloquently against it.

Barmeyoldbat Mon 12-Sept-22 15:52:19

Well that just goes to show it’s ok for some, look at the grief I got when I said I protected my home from having to pay care home fees so I could pass it onto my gc

Casdon Mon 12-Sept-22 15:50:49

Thegrandmarniter

Michael Sheen should be Prince of Wales.

Or President perhaps? He’s certainly good at rousing speeches, did you see him on A League Their Own?

Esmay Mon 12-Sept-22 15:50:01

You certainly opened a can of worms with me !

jacqrose Mon 12-Sept-22 15:49:47

Grany

We will now begin to pay William more than £20m a year.
Duchy of Cornwall worth 1billion passes to William

And no inheritance tax paid either

volver Mon 12-Sept-22 15:49:24

As I asked above - that was Franco's doing, wasn't it?