Let's just give them a break ......

Not sure what that means.

VioletSky

Yes please let us give them a break and not watch another thread spontaneously combust

Hear hear.

Yes please let us give them a break and not watch another thread spontaneously combust

I am sure the Queen forgave Andrew , perhaps being the second son, as is Harry, damaged him so we shouldn’t judge him.

when its linked with a need to control others, it causes havoc.

I couldnt agree more.

I don’t think anyone can speak for other people,and their feelings.

“We felt trapped” is fir H&M to say.

“My father and brother are trapped” is just projecting your own feelings on to others and reveals an immature view of things, an inability to decentre from your own thoughts and feelings and realise that others think and feel differently about things.

When it’s linked with a need to control others, it causes havoc.

Sorry, but there is no comparison at all.

As sentient beings we can choose how we deal with life's difficulties.
As such some responsibility for the outcome falls at H and M's feet.

Harry feels for his wife but still doesn't understand how trapped many people feel trapped by jobs they hate but have to do to earn money.

I still think they are self obessed. Suffering is part of being human sadly,

I think King Charles has done a very good job of showing forgiveness.

I for one have nothing to forgive. Or be forgiven for.
I'm just an observer.

If there is nothing to report, nothing will be reported.

Forgiveness lies at the heart of the Christian faith. It can heal broken families, it can restore friendships and it can reconcile divided communities.
The Queen, long before Meghan became part of the family.

She certainly set a wonderful example didn't she.

Perhaps the Queens example of forgiveness could be an encouragement?

Every single case if different, and it is not right to transfer feelings about a personal experience to such a situation. Harry and Meghan have felt ignored, belittled, betrayed by a 'system', an 'industry' even. Why are their feelings of betrayal any less so?

Which is why it can be so hard to do.

To forgive is divine

Thank you, those who defend betrayal should experience it, but i hope they never do.

So sorry Annie that you had such a terrible experience, it’s something that’s very hard to forget. It was lovely to see the brothers doing a walk about together and I hope it continues and they become close friends again. Maybe this will give him time to reflect what he has written in his book and maybe make some changes to any parts that could hurt. As for Meghan I thought she was given a warm welcome and just maybe this might go a long way to her changing her ways about how she treats not only the Royal family but her family as well.

Betrayal is as you say Annie vile and cruel and something you never expect to be the victim of .

I don’t hate,but having experienced a family member talking
publicly about my darling daughter I find betrayal to be vile
and so cruel.

in the main they have indeed lost the hearts of the British people Kalu

I do agree Avalon I think the British people are very fair indeed and behaved this way as they were sorry he had lost a loved grandmother.
this is a golden opportunity to make it up to his Father and brother.

I think to say, ‘they have lost the hearts of the British people’ isn’t factual if you read what other posters have written on this thread Prentice!

Neither do I Prentice but it seems that for some any criticism of H & M is regarded as such or spite, venom or bitterness. The RF still has H's book hanging over them not to mention M saying she can say whatever she likes because she didn't sign a confidentiality agreement.

Both before the death of the Queen but neither have been rescinded.

Like you and many, I hope there can be a reconciliation but that will require trust and they have I think a long way to go before they can be trusted by the RF again.

It can't be easy having to be constantly on your guard for fear of what you say being repeated and/or twisted, and that must surely be how H's family feel and understandably so.

I agree Mine that we all make mistakes and speak out of turn but to do so so publicly is what very few would do, even if given the opportunity.

Prentice I thought they were very well treated on the walkabout in Windsor. One person refused to look at Meghan and shake hands but they could all have booed but they didn’t.
Perhaps she can stop shooting the hate line. It would be nice if she went to visit her father before it’s too late as well. Perhaps Harry can persuade her after missing out on seeing his grandma although invited.