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US & UK are poor societies with some very rich people.

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GrannyGravy13 Sat 17-Sept-22 10:20:42

volver

People die of starvation in Britain.

www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dwp-hounded-disabled-woman-for-years-before-her-starvation-death-papers-show/

Having read your link, this is not a simple case, it is multi faceted.

Norah Sat 17-Sept-22 10:19:27

I would prefer people to give generously to charity and roll up sleeves to help the poor, as part of peoples everyday life.

I have no problem with extreme wealth, as with that comes the ability to give back, worldwide, extremely huge amounts. Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos, McKenzie Scott, Warren Buffet come to mind.

Bill Gates: "The Microsoft co-founder announced this week that he's donating $20 billion to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, while reiterating his pledge to give away “virtually all of my wealth to the foundation” and eventually drop off the list of the world's wealthiest people altogether. Jul 15, 2022"

www.gatesfoundation.org/about/foundation-fact-sheet

volver Sat 17-Sept-22 10:18:22

In answer to the question in the OP; the wealth should be better distributed around the population.

MissAdventure Sat 17-Sept-22 10:16:21

In a way, it's more shocking that people die here, and can be undiscovered for weeks/months, because they have fallen through the net.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 17-Sept-22 10:14:35

Not sure what your point is volver. The woman had money but wouldn’t spend it on food or bills. We will never know what caused the problems with her benefits but it’s possible that, given her mental health issues, she didn’t engage with the DWP to provide the necessary information.

volver Sat 17-Sept-22 10:12:36

It has changed nanna8. This country is on its knees.

nanna8 Sat 17-Sept-22 10:02:16

It’s changed then. I find that difficult to comprehend.

volver Sat 17-Sept-22 09:57:24

People die of starvation in Britain.

www.disabilitynewsservice.com/dwp-hounded-disabled-woman-for-years-before-her-starvation-death-papers-show/

nanna8 Sat 17-Sept-22 09:55:47

I’m not sure you could compare the UK,or Australia, come to that, with some very poor countries. Not many would die of starvation in either country because there is a welfare system.Certainly not as visible as it is in some of the poorer Asian and African countries ( which certainly also contain extremely rich people and don’t share their wealth)

MaizieD Sat 17-Sept-22 09:48:09

John Burn-Murdoch in the Financial Times today on the effect wealth distribution has on living standards.

By comparison with other countries

Income inequality in US & UK is so wide that while the richest are very well off, the poorest have a worse standard of living than the poorest in countries like Slovenia

He develops this in a twitter thread which is well worth reading:

twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1570832839318605824

and in his FT article.

www.ft.com/content/ef265420-45e8-497b-b308-c951baa68945

(The FT is usually paywalled. This article doesn't appear to be. But if you can't access it via this link you can through the link that Bur-Murdoch gives in his twitter thread)

I think this bears out a point that I was trying to make in another thread, that GDP indicates the over all wealth in a country, but not its distribution.

In his FT article, he poses the question:

Where would you rather live? A society where the rich are extraordinarily rich and the poor are very poor, or one where the rich are merely very well off but even those on the lowest incomes also enjoy a decent standard of living?

hmm

I'd ask the question: Which is more important to you; that the UK is an over all wealthy nation or that the wealth is better distributed within the UK population?