I am off out now.
I have answered all questions put to me fully and to the best of my ability.
Are you irritating in RL? (light hearted)
How did you vote and why today
Just this!
The pound is at its lowest level since the crash of 1985. The average UK household is projected to be poorer than the average Slovenian household by 2024 and Polish by 2030 (source: John Murdoch in the financial times today).
Glad we took back control eh!
I am off out now.
I have answered all questions put to me fully and to the best of my ability.
Normandygirl
GrannyGravy13
Fleurpepper
vegansrock
But on balance if we lol at the decline of the U.K. since 2016, there are many more businesses suffering than flourishing . Not sure of those flourishing? Debt collectors? Pawn shops? Food banks?
Again, I am quite sure no list will come forward.
GG13, this kind of comment can't be made without backing it up. Not only a list, but figures. How much lost and how much won- what is the balance?If you think I am going to publish my company accounts on GN you have got to be joking.
What I will divulge is that we are still very much in profit, all employees will be receiving a salary increase this month, along with bonuses next month. This is also what other Co.Directors in our line of business are telling us also.
Closer to home, in the last three months, the newly vacated shops in our High Road have been let immediately. Whilst I appreciate that this may not be the same U.K. wide, it is what is happening here.* GrannyGravy13*
Is your business doing much better after brexit than before?
Has leaving the EU increased your profits and if so, in what way? ?
That is the only criteria that is relevant as claiming that your business has "survived" is not a brexit bonus is it?
We were fortunate that we were a protected trade during Covid, we carried on throughout with a skeleton staff, and due to what we supplied our profits increased (despite the blatant profiteering from competitors)
Since then yes our profit margins have increased, Brexit has not been the cause of any losses.
Casdon
GrannyGravy13
Brexit threads are rather Groundhog Day
If a poster comes on with a bad news story they get support and agreement however, if a poster has positive news it is met with disbelief.
It’s as if posters are queuing up waiting for me to post that my business has failed and my employees are all out of work?I’d hope not GrannyGravy13, that would be mean when you’ve been honest and spoken from the perspective of your own business. I think many people are genuinely worried though because the wider evidence and forecasting that is coming out from economists is gloomy, and the government has been incompetent. I’m not a natural pessimist, but I read the signs. A lot is resting on the shoulders of Ms Truss. .
Cannot disagree that forecasters are predicting gloom, a bit like polls before elections they have been known to be wrong. I only post on what I know regarding our business and other related interwoven businesses. I know we are fortunate and I thank my lucky stars often.
I hope Ms.Truss realises that something must be done quickly for those on benefits, capping energy costs should just be the start. Then she has to look at small businesses that are suffering, maybe extend their energy cap for more than the proposed 6 months and have a look at business rates.
I hope that things can move forward with our relations with the EU and other Countries, it’s become obvious that there was not a plan. There should have been plan A, B, C and D before the referendum, I hold David Cameron to blame for that.
GrannyGravy13
Fleurpepper
vegansrock
But on balance if we lol at the decline of the U.K. since 2016, there are many more businesses suffering than flourishing . Not sure of those flourishing? Debt collectors? Pawn shops? Food banks?
Again, I am quite sure no list will come forward.
GG13, this kind of comment can't be made without backing it up. Not only a list, but figures. How much lost and how much won- what is the balance?If you think I am going to publish my company accounts on GN you have got to be joking.
What I will divulge is that we are still very much in profit, all employees will be receiving a salary increase this month, along with bonuses next month. This is also what other Co.Directors in our line of business are telling us also.
Closer to home, in the last three months, the newly vacated shops in our High Road have been let immediately. Whilst I appreciate that this may not be the same U.K. wide, it is what is happening here.
* GrannyGravy13*
Is your business doing much better after brexit than before?
Has leaving the EU increased your profits and if so, in what way? ?
That is the only criteria that is relevant as claiming that your business has "survived" is not a brexit bonus is it?
Fleurpepper
Not at all, we are however expecting people to look at the wider picture, and not just they own business.
I can assure you that I look at the wider picture, if you really look long and hard at everything there is good as well as bad.
It is just as blinkered to only look at the bad whilst ignoring the good.
We (your quote) can expect what you like, it is naive of anyone not to look at the wider picture. I was repeatedly told on here before 31/12/2019 that I and others would be unable to get the medication which we need to keep us alive, scaremongering at its worse.
GrannyGravy13
Brexit threads are rather Groundhog Day
If a poster comes on with a bad news story they get support and agreement however, if a poster has positive news it is met with disbelief.
It’s as if posters are queuing up waiting for me to post that my business has failed and my employees are all out of work?
I’d hope not GrannyGravy13, that would be mean when you’ve been honest and spoken from the perspective of your own business. I think many people are genuinely worried though because the wider evidence and forecasting that is coming out from economists is gloomy, and the government has been incompetent. I’m not a natural pessimist, but I read the signs. A lot is resting on the shoulders of Ms Truss. .
Not at all, we are however expecting people to look at the wider picture, and not just they own business.
Brexit threads are rather Groundhog Day
If a poster comes on with a bad news story they get support and agreement however, if a poster has positive news it is met with disbelief.
It’s as if posters are queuing up waiting for me to post that my business has failed and my employees are all out of work?
But quite possibly (or even probably) some of these businesses will have found alternative markets for their goods. One third sounds a huge amount - yet there’s little or nothing on the tv news about this.
MaizieD
^The number of UK businesses exporting goods to the EU fell 33 per cent to 18,357 in 2021, from 27,321 in 2020.^
www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/hmrc-data-confirms-brexit-has-decimated-uk-exports-335181/
Have those figures taken Covid into consideration?
I know some stats have been adjusted to do so.
I am not saying that all businesses are flourishing, there always have been business failures, Brexit has complicated matters and I am not denying that I just want to let people know that many are doing perfectly ok.
Imports are coming through as they were pre Brexit because the government doesn't dare implement the Brexit rules for imported goods.
So, fine for importers.
The number of UK businesses exporting goods to the EU fell 33 per cent to 18,357 in 2021, from 27,321 in 2020.
www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/hmrc-data-confirms-brexit-has-decimated-uk-exports-335181/
GrannyGravy13
MaizieD
(We are in the S E and trade inside and outside of the M25 and beyond)
Do you trade with Europe?
Was most of your trade with Europe?Import yes (from Europe & Asia) some exports depending on where our customers are working.
There is more paperwork agreed.
Surely more than 'just paperwork' and the costs attached, in so many ways. Sterling is so so low now, the lowest ever against some currencies- so importing will be much more expensive, whichever business requires any imported goods.
As well of course as medicines, essential chemicals, vaccines and a vast number of other utilities, foods and anything involved in international supply chains.
GrannyGravy13
Fleurpepper
Not talking about your accounts- but the balance of businesses lost or seriously affected and on the brink, and their figures, compared to those doing better now.
What would you like me to do, post names of company’s and their profit and loss sheets?
I have already said that I am posting about what I know
This is exactly what YOU said, you only know what you know- about your business. And it is not enough to get a proper and full picture of what is happening to trade in the UK currently. Clearly, your words, so not rude at all.
MaizieD
^(We are in the S E and trade inside and outside of the M25 and beyond)^
Do you trade with Europe?
Was most of your trade with Europe?
Import yes (from Europe & Asia) some exports depending on where our customers are working.
There is more paperwork agreed.
Many of the anti-Brexit mindset are absolutely determined not to be pleased about good news GG13 even though you know of what you speak.
You’re flogging a dead horse woman. ?
(We are in the S E and trade inside and outside of the M25 and beyond)
Do you trade with Europe?
Was most of your trade with Europe?
Fleurpepper
Then clearly you don't know enough, I am sorry to say.
Did you look at the link I gave or is it too upbeat and positive for you ?
Fleurpepper
Then clearly you don't know enough, I am sorry to say.
And you are exceptionally rude, how dare you say that I do not know enough!!!!
We have been in our trade for over 40 years, know it inside out.
What exactly do you do?
? of course most businesses are still in profit. We would be a completely failed state if not.
What is indisputably happening is that economic activity is slowing, exports are falling and tax revenue has slowed.
Then clearly you don't know enough, I am sorry to say.
Fleurpepper
Not talking about your accounts- but the balance of businesses lost or seriously affected and on the brink, and their figures, compared to those doing better now.
What would you like me to do, post names of company’s and their profit and loss sheets?
I have already said that I am posting about what I know
Whitewavemark2
GrannyGravy13
This just popped up?
Well it sounds positive.
That’s what I thought.
Casdon
I’m sorry, but I prefer to assess how Brexit has affected businesses from sources other than Gransnet members’ own experiences, which can’t be representative. This is one recent report from the Independent Resolution Foundation think tank, there are many more assessments from different economic forecasters available, and they paint a grim picture.
www.resolutionfoundation.org/press-releases/brexit-has-damaged-britains-competitiveness-and-will-make-us-poorer-in-the-decade-ahead/
I am not disputing anyone else’s forecasts or figures, I am only posting what I know, see and hear.
(We are in the S E and trade inside and outside of the M25 and beyond)
Not talking about your accounts- but the balance of businesses lost or seriously affected and on the brink, and their figures, compared to those doing better now.
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