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Another Benefit of Brexit?

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Granny23 Sun 18-Sept-22 11:14:25

Just this!

The pound is at its lowest level since the crash of 1985. The average UK household is projected to be poorer than the average Slovenian household by 2024 and Polish by 2030 (source: John Murdoch in the financial times today).
Glad we took back control eh!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:31:48

GrannyGravy13

This just popped up?

Well it sounds positive.

GrannyGravy13 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:30:21

Fleurpepper

vegansrock

But on balance if we lol at the decline of the U.K. since 2016, there are many more businesses suffering than flourishing . Not sure of those flourishing? Debt collectors? Pawn shops? Food banks?

Again, I am quite sure no list will come forward.

GG13, this kind of comment can't be made without backing it up. Not only a list, but figures. How much lost and how much won- what is the balance?

If you think I am going to publish my company accounts on GN you have got to be joking.

What I will divulge is that we are still very much in profit, all employees will be receiving a salary increase this month, along with bonuses next month. This is also what other Co.Directors in our line of business are telling us also.

Closer to home, in the last three months, the newly vacated shops in our High Road have been let immediately. Whilst I appreciate that this may not be the same U.K. wide, it is what is happening here.

Casdon Tue 20-Sept-22 15:29:05

I’m sorry, but I prefer to assess how Brexit has affected businesses from sources other than Gransnet members’ own experiences, which can’t be representative. This is one recent report from the Independent Resolution Foundation think tank, there are many more assessments from different economic forecasters available, and they paint a grim picture.
www.resolutionfoundation.org/press-releases/brexit-has-damaged-britains-competitiveness-and-will-make-us-poorer-in-the-decade-ahead/

GrannyGravy13 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:26:00

This just popped up?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:25:42

I am surprised at all these businesses apparently flourishing as we are currently in a recession with no growth and no hope that it will improve in the foreseeable future.

Fleurpepper Tue 20-Sept-22 15:23:54

vegansrock

But on balance if we lol at the decline of the U.K. since 2016, there are many more businesses suffering than flourishing . Not sure of those flourishing? Debt collectors? Pawn shops? Food banks?

Again, I am quite sure no list will come forward.

GG13, this kind of comment can't be made without backing it up. Not only a list, but figures. How much lost and how much won- what is the balance?

GrannyGravy13 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:19:05

Fleurpepper

GrannyGravy13

Some businesses have suffered due to Brexit, but many are flourishing.

Which? Links please.

I am joint owner of a SME, we speak to other businesses/business owners constantly as I haven’t got their permission to name them I will not.

Jefferson@Jefferson_MFG is a good place to check out the positives, new factories being built and expansions etc.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:18:09

Brexit has contributed to inflation by approx 4%.

The value of Sterling has fallen.

Investment has fallen,

Shortage of staff in so many sectors

I expect everyone can add to that list

vegansrock Tue 20-Sept-22 15:12:48

But on balance if we lol at the decline of the U.K. since 2016, there are many more businesses suffering than flourishing . Not sure of those flourishing? Debt collectors? Pawn shops? Food banks?

Fleurpepper Tue 20-Sept-22 15:12:48

GrannyGravy13

Some businesses have suffered due to Brexit, but many are flourishing.

Which? Links please.

Fleurpepper Tue 20-Sept-22 15:12:27

Urmstongran

9 times out of 10 our worst fears never happen.
Chin up folks!

You can repeat the mantra, on and on, Ariston- and it still does not make any sense.

It has already happened- you just need to open your eyes!

GrannyGravy13 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:08:51

Some businesses have suffered due to Brexit, but many are flourishing.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 15:03:29

?

Urmstongran Tue 20-Sept-22 14:59:36

I like to think I am a good citizen.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 14:47:19

Urmstongran

From personal experience only, I can’t think of anything deleterious offhand that has affected me (or my family for that matter) post Brexit. Am I living in a parallel universe?

A good citizen looks further than their own experience though.

MaizieD Tue 20-Sept-22 14:42:27

Urmstongran

From personal experience only, I can’t think of anything deleterious offhand that has affected me (or my family for that matter) post Brexit. Am I living in a parallel universe?

You are indeed, Ug.

People's businesses have been wrecked by Brexit; you clearly live in a bubble where it hasn't happened.

Urmstongran Tue 20-Sept-22 14:26:49

From personal experience only, I can’t think of anything deleterious offhand that has affected me (or my family for that matter) post Brexit. Am I living in a parallel universe?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 14:19:06

Urmstongran

9 times out of 10 our worst fears never happen.
Chin up folks!

They have with regards to Brexit. In some cases worse than feared.

Urmstongran Tue 20-Sept-22 13:49:42

9 times out of 10 our worst fears never happen.
Chin up folks!

Grantanow Tue 20-Sept-22 12:52:07

It is obvious that Brexit is a disaster manipulated into being by Garage and Johnson who became the worst PM in history on the back of it. The Tories dare not speak its name and Labour ought to take a stand on it. Where is the promised trade agreement with the USA? What benefits did Rees-Mogg discover when he was the Minister for Brexit Opportunities? The UK shot itself in the foot and we shall be limping for a hundred years if we don't do something about it. And now we have Truss elected by a minute percentage of the population. God help us all.

Normandygirl Tue 20-Sept-22 11:01:31

Urmstongran

I would vote to Leave again. We’re still not making the most of an open door. So many have tried to thwart Brexit. (Remember the HoC and all those ‘indicative votes’ from Remain supporting MP’s who just couldn’t get their heads around the fact that we had voted OUT). Take away all that nonsense and then Theresa May’s dithering and then a pandemic - goodness knows we’re due a break sometime soon! We’ve hardly been out. No wonder there’s not that much to show for it. 6 years? Ha! Condense it down and it’s been more like 18 months.

Time to get cracking Ms. Truss.
At least she acknowledges this.

I admire you tenacity in sticking with your faith in brexit despite all the irrefutable evidence that it is a failure of unprecedented magnitude for the whole of the UK and everyone in it.
I equally admire your faith in Ms Truss who stated in 2016;-

She said: “I don’t want my daughters to grow up in a world where they need a visa or permit to work in Europe; or where they are hampered from growing a business because of extortionate call costs and barriers to trade.”

She continued: “Every parent wants their children to grow up in a healthy environment with clean water, fresh air and thriving natural wonders. Being part of the EU helps protect these precious resources and spaces.”
In the run-up to the 2016 vote, Truss tweeted: “Leave cannot name one country we would get a better trade deal with if we left the EU."
But yes by all means " get cracking" Ms Truss

MaizieD Tue 20-Sept-22 10:59:01

There's no arguing with the utterly deluded.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 10:58:34

Urmstongran

Goodness, you lot are such doomsters.
The pandemic ‘partygate’ did for Boris. Not Brexit. Wake up at the back.
We have a team now with Brexit Bonus in mind. It is on turbocharge. It has to be to please the Red Wall who are mightily fed up of the slow progress in ditching ECHR which got enhanced by Blair. That stops us in so many ways from being the country we want to be. (Or at least voted to be - I appreciate half of you don’t want it but the democratic vote decrees it’s happening).

That is such a hackneyed phrase ug

You are wrong on so many levels. But really I’m not surprised.

Urmstongran Tue 20-Sept-22 10:54:48

Goodness, you lot are such doomsters.
The pandemic ‘partygate’ did for Boris. Not Brexit. Wake up at the back.
We have a team now with Brexit Bonus in mind. It is on turbocharge. It has to be to please the Red Wall who are mightily fed up of the slow progress in ditching ECHR which got enhanced by Blair. That stops us in so many ways from being the country we want to be. (Or at least voted to be - I appreciate half of you don’t want it but the democratic vote decrees it’s happening).

growstuff Tue 20-Sept-22 10:49:01

There was no point in leaving the EU!! (Unless, of course, you're happy for the UK to become an insignificant little island off the coast of mainland Europe, with feudal employment conditions.)