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Another Benefit of Brexit?

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Granny23 Sun 18-Sept-22 11:14:25

Just this!

The pound is at its lowest level since the crash of 1985. The average UK household is projected to be poorer than the average Slovenian household by 2024 and Polish by 2030 (source: John Murdoch in the financial times today).
Glad we took back control eh!

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 10:47:56

Urmstongran

I would vote to Leave again. We’re still not making the most of an open door. So many have tried to thwart Brexit. (Remember the HoC and all those ‘indicative votes’ from Remain supporting MP’s who just couldn’t get their heads around the fact that we had voted OUT). Take away all that nonsense and then Theresa May’s dithering and then a pandemic - goodness knows we’re due a break sometime soon! We’ve hardly been out. No wonder there’s not that much to show for it. 6 years? Ha! Condense it down and it’s been more like 18 months.

Time to get cracking Ms. Truss.
At least she acknowledges this.

A voice crying in the wilderness. It isn’t going to happen and the sooner the country faces up to this certain fact the better for everyone concerned.

We desperately need to apply to join the SM and CU, that at least would be a kick start to the growth Truss craves.

MaizieD Tue 20-Sept-22 10:47:46

I have every confidence in this country. We will surge ahead under ‘the new team’. Just you wait.

I seem to remember you saying something similar when Johnson became PM. ?

I'm just wondering what we have left to 'surge' with.

Urmstongran Tue 20-Sept-22 10:43:48

I would vote to Leave again. We’re still not making the most of an open door. So many have tried to thwart Brexit. (Remember the HoC and all those ‘indicative votes’ from Remain supporting MP’s who just couldn’t get their heads around the fact that we had voted OUT). Take away all that nonsense and then Theresa May’s dithering and then a pandemic - goodness knows we’re due a break sometime soon! We’ve hardly been out. No wonder there’s not that much to show for it. 6 years? Ha! Condense it down and it’s been more like 18 months.

Time to get cracking Ms. Truss.
At least she acknowledges this.

Urmstongran Tue 20-Sept-22 10:36:37

Many GP trainees are saying they plan to work part time. We need to train more up to cancel the oncoming deficit. (Their T&C must suit them as (a) they wouldn’t be trading in the first place and (b) choosing to work part time at a young age is a luxury afforded to few folk surely?).

Liz Truss will See we go full steam ahead now for Brexit. Keep your nose out of NI Biden. We will trade with the Commonwealth countries. We need the brakes off now to reach our full potential. The EU fiscal rules re banking are causing problems even in Europe apparently. It’s time to scrap so many of their ‘directives’ (which they ignore anyway when it suits!) otherwise what was the point of leaving?

I have every confidence in this country. We will surge ahead under ‘the new team’. Just you wait.
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silverlining48 Tue 20-Sept-22 10:19:19

When I ask my brexit voting dh if he would vote differently if given the chance, he says he would still vote for it, but I know he knows that it’s been a disaster, but he’s stubborn and wont admit it.
I wonder if that’s common among those who voted Out like Farmers and fishermen who wont admit they mayday a mistake.
As for Ireland, that is a scandal.
We risk the UK being broken up to what will be no more than small states.

Lucca Tue 20-Sept-22 10:03:02

I suspect we won’t hear from usuallyright anytime soon,

Normandygirl Tue 20-Sept-22 09:52:59

Latest figures from the ONS show that leaving the EU is costing the UK £450 million a week. That's another £100 million that the NHS won't be getting then. hmm

silverlining48 Tue 20-Sept-22 09:42:47

Sorry usually right , you are definitely wrong this time. We are in a mess of our own making which has already been described upthread.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 09:29:46

Allsorts

We’re all doomed!

That was obvious from 2016.

Allsorts Tue 20-Sept-22 09:28:12

We’re all doomed!

Fleurpepper Tue 20-Sept-22 09:24:52

Like all those expats in Spain, France and rest of EU who voted for Brexit but now bitterly complain their driving licences are no longer valid!

This was always the case, if non EU you have to retake your licence, unless a reciprocal arrangement was made by individual countries. They actually were given the chance to exchange their licences, but a large proportion did not bother, shouting 'we don't need to, we are British' ... and now go crazy about not being allowed to drive, or for many, continue to drive illegally and without valid insurance.

MaizieD Tue 20-Sept-22 09:14:15

If you voted for Brexit, you’ve literally allowed the Tories to reinstate the feudal system.

It falls on deaf ears...
People who voted for Brexit rarely bother to associate their vote with its consequences.

Fleurpepper Tue 20-Sept-22 09:10:09

geeljay

He also wants those working from home to go back to work. Perhaps start issuing passports and driving licences. Get Britain working and functioning again! Would even be nice to meet our G Ps again.

What Rees Mogg wants to do, is to abolish the Working Time Directive. That means forcing people, many in very dangerous jobs, or in nursing and doctoring, to work over 48 hrs a week.

You cannot remove this, and many other workers’ rights, if you are a member of the EU. This was a major reason why people like Rees Mogg wanted to leave.

I am especially sorry for people with dangerous jobs like drivers and warehouse workers, and for people - women - with childcare or caring responsibilities, because these things are going to really hit them most. Especially in the government’s charter cities which will basically be run by the Sheriff of Nottingham. If you voted for Brexit, you’ve literally allowed the Tories to reinstate the feudal system.

MaizieD Tue 20-Sept-22 09:02:48

Well said, VQ??

grannyrebel7 Tue 20-Sept-22 09:01:27

Brexit was one of the worst things that happened to our country. Usuallyright you're definitely Usuallywrong on this one as someone previously said. We now have a shortage of doctors, nurses, vets, construction workers, fruit pickers etc. We have to pay huge tariffs to trade with other EU countries and lorries are backed up at all the ports re the paperwork now required. You can no longer go to work or stay in EU countries for longer than 90 days at a time. Shall I go on? There are zero advantages of Brexit.

vampirequeen Tue 20-Sept-22 08:40:16

geeljay

He also wants those working from home to go back to work. Perhaps start issuing passports and driving licences. Get Britain working and functioning again! Would even be nice to meet our G Ps again.

What he wants and what he does are two different things. People who work from home are actually working. My DIL is a civil servant who works three days in the office and two days at home. She says she gets far more done on the two days at home because she is away from office distractions and managers stopping her doing what she should be doing to work on something else.

'Perhaps' isn't a definite worked out plan.

Britain is working. You make it sound as if everything is at a standstill.

There is a shortage of GPs in the UK. Increasing the number of GPs will improve your chance of getting an appointment. In order to do that they have to make being a GP more attractive to young doctors by improving their terms and conditions. Making those in an understaffed system work harder for less money is not going to attract people into the job. It is time efficient to triage GP appointments rather than having everyone go into the surgery. A lot of people's needs can be dealt with over the phone and that saves GP valuable time to give to those who need face to face time.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 08:36:32

Being interviewed in CNN former Director of Royal Communications at Buckingham Palace, Sally Osman, accidentally let slip that the Queen was pro EU.

In her Christmas Day speech, 2019, the Queen wore the same broach that she wore at the time of her address to the European Parliament. It represents the stars in the EU flag.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 20-Sept-22 08:29:30

Truss has admitted that there will be no trade deal with the USA

“The UK’s two largest trading partners are the EU & US. We deliberately sabotaged trade with the EU and, as a consequence of the way we did that, are not getting a US trade deal.

And the party that did both of those now bangs on about growth.

It’s all so bloody ridiculous.“

geeljay Mon 19-Sept-22 14:04:59

He also wants those working from home to go back to work. Perhaps start issuing passports and driving licences. Get Britain working and functioning again! Would even be nice to meet our G Ps again.

vampirequeen Mon 19-Sept-22 11:49:44

What has Brexit achieved that makes us better off?

We have blue passports made in Poland by a French owned company.
We have agreed trade deals which undermine our farming industry and animal welfare.
We left a large trading bloc to become a small purchaser.
We have food rotting in the fields because the foreign workers can't/won't come over to pick it.
We have a shortage of lorry drivers.

Now Jacob Rees Mogg wants us to return to imperial weights and measures. Whilst some of us probably think in both, our children think in metric and manufacturers use metric. How much will it cost to change machinery etc. back to imperial?

What next? A return to £sd.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 19-Sept-22 11:22:56

Her clothes nearly always sent a message. It was done deliberately and elegantly.

BlueBelle Mon 19-Sept-22 11:11:49

Well usuallyright is very usuallywrong this time
the worst thing the country could have done…. utter suicide
You should remove your blinkers and face reality
The queen gave the only clue she could, I did like her for that hidden message

MayBee70 Mon 19-Sept-22 11:07:06

I’ll never forget that Sun front page’ The Queen supports brexit’. It still infuriates me.

Whitewavemark2 Mon 19-Sept-22 06:00:16

This is appropriate today. The Queen wore this at the state opening of parliament, instead if her usual regalia after a Sun journalist claimed that she supported Brexit.

MayBee70 Sun 18-Sept-22 22:47:19

usuallyright

Stop bleating about the different situations which have affected the whole world, and they surely were not caused by us taking the most sensible step for Great Britain, of leaving the EU.
We are now, in general terms, able to do what is best for Britain, except where the vindictive nature of the EU is still attempting to interfere with us running our great country, to the benefit of Great Britain, and most importantly Northern Ireland.
Incidentally I did vote for Brexit, and was highly delighted with the result when it came. Thank you David Cameron for giving us the most welcome opportunity to escape from the clutches of the EU. TTFN

To the benefit of Northern Ireland? Can you elaborate on that please…