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Apparently those of us objecting to fracking are being funded by Putin, according to Smogg.

What a fool that man is.

Blimey, fracking is the first policy being introduced to parliament by Truss, and there is major opposition from the Tories.

Veteran backbencher Greg Knight says:
“Is he aware the safety of the public is not a currency on which some of us choose to speculate?”

“Tory backbenchers like Mark Menzies clearly FURIOUS with breaking of pledge fracking would not happen without local consent and with Rees-Mogg ghosting them on this.”

There is mutiny in the ranks.

Ed Dave purposely set the bar super low with regards to tremors.

We need to drill to ascertain viability.
Burying our heads in the sand and relying on gas pipelines from thousands of miles away (some from countries with dubious credentials) needs reviewing.

Capacity for energy is not going to lessen. We need to source alternative options.

Urmstongran

Ed Dave purposely set the bar super low with regards to tremors.

We need to drill to ascertain viability.
Burying our heads in the sand and relying on gas pipelines from thousands of miles away (some from countries with dubious credentials) needs reviewing.

Capacity for energy is not going to lessen. We need to source alternative options.

98.5% of the UK’s gas supply comes from the North Sea Urmstongran. We don’t need to import any from dubious sources.

Well I'm in favour of fracking, I'm in favour of anything that will make the UK energy secure.

As for Putin who knows anything goes. There were plenty of so called fools on here saying Brexit was funded by Putin seems strange you all believed that.

Whitewavemark2

So todays news is

The government is considering lifting the ban on live animal exports.

Lifting the ban on importation of foie gras

Lifting the ban on the importation of animal furs.

Lifting the ban on the importation of hunting trophies like dead lions etc.

Apparently the bans are too “socialist”. Since when has the ban on cruelty to sentient beings become too socialist!

I think bans are extreme and also not necessarily effective. It does sound as if some are saying, "I ban because I know better and must insist you only have my choice".

I also think that banning creates illegal trade or workarounds.

Education and persuasion are the ways to change views. Some will still not agree with you, but sometimes we have to agree to disagree.

Maudi

Well I'm in favour of fracking, I'm in favour of anything that will make the UK energy secure.

As for Putin who knows anything goes. There were plenty of so called fools on here saying Brexit was funded by Putin seems strange you all believed that.

That would be fine if fracking were going to make UK energy secure. It won't.

On the other hand, making houses more energy efficient would do but the government is choosing not to do that.

I agree all new builds should be energy efficient and should have solar panels as standard.

Oh. I didn’t know the percentage for North Sea gas was so high!
Thank you Casdon I stand corrected.
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Oh wait.

“The UK's reliance on Russian gas is far less significant, at just 3 per cent. About half of the UK's gas comes from the North Sea, and a third is sourced from Norway. The rest is made up of imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) transported to the UK by sea from countries such as Qatar and the US.4 Aug 2022
inews.co.uk › News”

Anyone who thinks there is no Russian influence in the UK is a fool. We even have a Lord of Siberia in the House of Lords thanks to B Johnson.

Urmstongran

Oh wait.

“The UK's reliance on Russian gas is far less significant, at just 3 per cent. About half of the UK's gas comes from the North Sea, and a third is sourced from Norway. The rest is made up of imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) transported to the UK by sea from countries such as Qatar and the US.4 Aug 2022
inews.co.uk › News”

Norway is on the North Sea!
The UK's gas imports are primarily natural gas, in either a liquefied or gaseous state. Natural gas in gaseous state is imported via pipeline, primarily from Norway, with small amounts from Belgium and the Netherlands.29 Jun 2022
www.ons.gov.uk ›

YouGov Public opinion poll on fracking released today.
yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/09/22/while-opposition-has-dropped-britons-remain-agains
Meanwhile Welsh Government have confirmed no fracking for Wales.

The rest is made up of imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) transported to the UK by sea from countries such as Qatar and the US.4 Aug 2022g

Yes I realise about Norway Casdon.
Be nice if we didn’t need a top up from Qatar going forward.
Maybe fracking could fill that gap.

DaisyAnne

Whitewavemark2

So todays news is

The government is considering lifting the ban on live animal exports.

Lifting the ban on importation of foie gras

Lifting the ban on the importation of animal furs.

Lifting the ban on the importation of hunting trophies like dead lions etc.

Apparently the bans are too “socialist”. Since when has the ban on cruelty to sentient beings become too socialist!

I think bans are extreme and also not necessarily effective. It does sound as if some are saying, "I ban because I know better and must insist you only have my choice".

I also think that banning creates illegal trade or workarounds.

Education and persuasion are the ways to change views. Some will still not agree with you, but sometimes we have to agree to disagree.

Well, good luck with that.

So by that logic we should lift the ban on fox hunting, farrowing crates, puppy farms, and so on.

CoolCoco

Anyone who thinks there is no Russian influence in the UK is a fool. We even have a Lord of Siberia in the House of Lords thanks to B Johnson.

Oh there is plenty of Russian influence, we have evidence if such. But none for those wanting to ban fracking.

Urmstongran

^The rest is made up of imports of liquefied natural gas (LNG) transported to the UK by sea from countries such as Qatar and the US.4 Aug 2022g^

Yes I realise about Norway Casdon.
Be nice if we didn’t need a top up from Qatar going forward.
Maybe fracking could fill that gap.

When do you anticipate that then UG?

No idea DaisyAnne but it’d be great to know it was being worked on.

Rubbish. They are just flying kites and you are responding just as they hoped.

Well me and a great swathe of the Great British Public I imagine.

We don’t have the processing plants in the UK to produce LPG Urmstongran. Oil and gas is a worldwide business, and we aren’t going to become completely self sufficient until a totally green energy solution is implemented - if ever. Fracking is not an answer, let alone the answer.

Even the founder of the UK's first fracking company says that it's a non-starter in the UK:

www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/21/fracking-wont-work-uk-founder-chris-cornelius-cuadrilla

Urmstongran

Well me and a great swathe of the Great British Public I imagine.

I'm afraid that wouldn't make it correct. As Daniel Patrick Moynihan said, " you are entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts." and this applies to governments as well as voters.

You have also shown over a long period a tendency to believe many, many more people agree with you than actually do. There are a lot of loud people around. What they are shouting doesn't always make sense.

Whitewavemark2

Just as an aside. Is there something a bit weird about Kwartang?Only there is footage showing him laughing and seemingly smirking and behaving very strangely at the Queen’s funeral.

Is it fake?

I don't think it is fake

MaizieD

Whitewavemark2

Oh thanks it was a phone call! I thought all phones had to be off?

That's the charitable explanation, WWmk2, others, involving white powder, are available.

Like Gove sometime ago in the HoC. Totally off his head. Worrying when you think of the massive responsability he carries.