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Kwasi

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MawtheMerrier Sat 01-Oct-22 12:41:49

Nicknames from last night’s HIGNFY included Kamikaze Kwarteng and Khazi Kwarteng as that is where the country is headed.
Any more offers?

(Is this too optimistic?)

Callistemon21 Sat 01-Oct-22 15:10:08

Fleurpepper

Known in France as 'Madame Tas de Chair' (Mrs lump of meat)

?
Oh dear. Not pleasant
And, of course, most people can discern the difference .

Why was Jim Callaghan called Sunny Jim Callaghan? Did he have a sunny nature?

Most people in the Forces have nicknames.

hallgreenmiss Sat 01-Oct-22 14:58:06

Riverwalk

Having an African name doesn't make him immune from political satire.

He's the British Chancellor of the Exchequer presiding over an economic disaster, which makes him fair game.

Absolutely agree with you

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 14:56:26

Not pleasant, all childish.

Except David Cameron. Who was apparently known as "Dave". They must have put a lot of thought into that...

tickingbird Sat 01-Oct-22 14:56:18

If he wasn’t conservative this thread would be denounced as racist. Meghan Markle is called out for her behaviour- it’s racist. Dianne Abbott called out for her many bloopers - it’s racist. The hypocrisy of some on this site stinks!

Prentice Sat 01-Oct-22 14:55:50

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Fleurpepper Sat 01-Oct-22 14:55:39

Known in France as 'Madame Tas de Chair' (Mrs lump of meat)

Callistemon21 Sat 01-Oct-22 14:54:48

It is nothing new; some names are pleasant, some less so.

One I've heard for Nicola Sturgeon isn't pleasant because it's belittling her appearance.

This one for Kwasi is describing his political actions.

Casdon Sat 01-Oct-22 14:51:25

This is nothing new though, leaders have always had nicknames in British politics - here they are for PMs, going back hundreds of years, some of them much more insulting, eg Margaret Thatcher - Attila the Hen.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_nicknames_of_prime_ministers_of_the_United_Kingdom

Fleurpepper Sat 01-Oct-22 14:50:53

In many ways I tend to think that poking fun because of someone's name, is wrong. And yet, it seems to be the norm for all politicians, rightly or wrongly.

One could therefore say that it could be seen as 'racist' not to do so in the case of Kwarteng, because he is black. Reverse racism, in a way. Remember when Police did not investigate crime because of 'sensibilities' in Bradford?

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 14:47:04

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Prentice Sat 01-Oct-22 14:45:56

Callistemon I think you are missing the point here.
I too am worried about what Mr Kwarteng is doing, it is all a huge gamble.
I simply dislike the name calling on a show such as HIGNFY, it is bad enough on social media.
It is not the end of the world but since the thread invited us to comment, I have done so.
I appreciate political satire, but this is not it.

Callistemon21 Sat 01-Oct-22 14:41:21

Would anyone consider it satire to have Mr Starmer called ‘Khazi Keir’ I wonder, the minute he did something that was disagreed with?
Kamikaze Keir? If he sent the UK on the kind of disastrous downward spiral we have just witnessed then yes, it might suit.

It's not that Kwasi Kwarteng has done something that we disagree with. It's far worse than that.

If you prefer to think of it as the literal translation for kamikaze then it means 'divine wind'.
He's perhaps on a mission to save the UK?
?

Prentice Sat 01-Oct-22 14:18:44

It is nothing to do with colour.It is making fun of the African name Kwasi and seeing what unpleasant names it can be turned into.If the man was called Ian or Stephen then I believe no attempt would be made to do this. It is a foreign name therefore, to some, a ‘funny’ one.
I do not believe this childish name calling to be fine for anyone, and certainly not ‘fair game’ simply because they are a politician.I sometimes wonder how far the antipathy towards MP’s will go, they already receive sacks of hate mail and hate email.
Criticism, yes of course, satire, yes too, but not personal insults or name calling.Would anyone consider it satire to have Mr Starmer called ‘Khazi Keir’ I wonder, the minute he did something that was disagreed with?
HIGNFY used to be really amusing and grown up, but not for a long time.

Callistemon21 Sat 01-Oct-22 14:14:00

Kamikaze Kwarteng

I think that's quite apt.
It reminded me of someone with a British surname beginning with K who somehow earned the same nickname.

Nothing to do with race, colour, nationality or creed but all to do with alliteration and a propensity for dodgy decision-making.

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 14:10:41

You haven't read all my previous posts then wink

Blossoming Sat 01-Oct-22 14:09:13

volver

It's not worse that "Bozo" Johnson or any of the other silly name calling. They are all silly and nobody should indulge in it. In my opinion.

Maybe so, but I don’t recall seeing any similar criticism of it.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 01-Oct-22 14:08:24

I have no need to ‘feel better’, thank you.

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 13:55:51

If it makes you feel better, you carry on thinking that GSM.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 01-Oct-22 13:54:50

He has an African name. Fact. He is a person of colour. Fact. No thought process. End of.

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 13:52:01

Are you of the opinion GSM that all people with African names are people of colour? The source of the mockery is his name. Not his colour. Except, maybe, in your mind.

You have automatically associated having an African name with being a person of colour.

Interesting thought process.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 01-Oct-22 13:48:43

Tell me then why Prentice, who I believe is a lady of colour, referred to ‘mocking GN an African name’. Why mention ‘African’? It’s irrelevant. You could start an argument in an empty room volver, as you’ve been told many times before.

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 13:40:19

I could give you the same advice GSM. Nobody mentioned his colour as being the source of the satire, I posted a link showing how the Mirror made a huge error that had nothing to do with satire.

This time you're wrong. Own it.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 01-Oct-22 13:36:30

Please see earlier posts volver rather than just leaping on me.

volver Sat 01-Oct-22 13:32:28

Nobody mentioned colour. People mentioned that he has an African name. ?

Jumping to interesting conclusions there, GSM