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Eddie Izzard

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GrannyMack246 Sat 01-Oct-22 17:43:00

A witness account -
thecritic.co.uk/eddie-izzard-uses-the-ladies-loo-in-sheffield/

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 11:11:45

I've laughed so much at my own jokes I need a wee now

I'm horrified at the thought that there may be a penis behind a closed and locked door.

I'll tell my sons and husband they are forthwith banned from the bathroom and they can all go take wild wees in the garden and traumatise the wildlife.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:10:42

I absolutely agree.

Non-binary lavatories are the way to go.

Stormystar Sun 02-Oct-22 11:10:29

Doodledog love your spot on summery

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:08:45

VioletSky

GrannyGravy13

I really cannot get my head round why it is that some females think it is perfectly acceptable for men complete with the genitalia they were born with to access female only spaces, in particular toilets.

Can you not see that it is men yet again wishing to control/deny women?

Because that's not the truth

Ultimately trans people need a wee and sometimes a poo of they are desperate enough do so in a public restroom due to a dodgy curry or something.

Might be your truth VioletSky

We are talking about Eddie Izzard, who sometimes dresses as a women when it suits him.

He is playing his fans and public, he is saying I can do what the hell I like and sod natal born women.

I really am totally over If I wear a dress, false breasts, high heels and a face full of makeup, I am a women bollocks

If you have a penis and testicles you are a MAN and therefore should not access any designated female only facilities.

If this makes me a flat earther where do I enrol?

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 11:08:33

I mean I would get it if the usual practise was to run around the restroom waving your bits about and going "woowooo" but we generally like a private cubicle.

Without the existence of trans people, men who meant harm could very easily walk into many ladies loos and they wouldn't even need a skirt or to be a dab hand at contouring to do so.

If however people start walking around restrooms taking pictures of others etc, do feel free to throw them out because that is very definitely disgusting behaviour and they should keep their phones in their pants.

Doodledog Sun 02-Oct-22 11:08:26

We are now linking Eddie Izzard having a wee in a toilet she feels comfy in with pedophiles as if that is a completely rational argument.
You’d better speak to Glorianny about that one. Many of us pointed out that that was not what was happening at all, but as Vic Reeves used to say ‘she wouldn’t let it lie’ grin

Chestnut Sun 02-Oct-22 11:07:47

VioletSky We are now linking Eddie Izzard having a wee in a toilet she feels comfy in with pedophiles as if that is a completely rational argument.

No we are saying all these people have one thing in common, they have a penis. And if you allow the harmless ones to enter ladies toilets then that gives permission for the dangerous ones to enter them as well. The criteria for using a ladies' toilet should be 'no penis'.

Stormystar Sun 02-Oct-22 11:06:44

Women have born subjection annihilation for so long for ever it seems, have struggled so hard to forge our own identity. And now must suffer humiliation, as if we are only tits arses and vaginas that men can simply parody and so claim Womanhood where is respect for human dignity in all of this. Men can only ever have a projected vision of Women from their male nature. Those who deny sexual differences conflate gender and sex are oblivious that Truth in itself is a state of consciousness.

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 11:05:35

Yes and presumably there was a toilet available for Eddie to do that. As there would be a toilet available for all the other men.

Doodledog Sun 02-Oct-22 11:05:03

Ok. A man wants to use a women’s loo. He is famous, so gets his way. Many people object, but he is defended by Glorianny on the following grounds:
* She (G) has used opposite sex loos when caught short and she didn’t want to queue.
* Izzard has raised a lot of money for charity
* It was mitigated by the fact that he was accompanied by two women making sure that everyone in the 300-strong audience knew he was there, so were aware that they could cross their legs till he finished.
* Concern that allowing men into women’s loos opens the doors to other men with nefarious intent is ‘abhorrent’.
* King Charles also raises money for charity and like millions of others was taken in by Jimmy Saville, so Glorianny drags him into the mix.
* Philanthropists need better mirrors to check their make-up (No, I don’t see the relevance either, but still)
* Izzard using the Ladies is irrelevant because King Charles ’had a close relationship’ with Saville. (??)
* Autogynephilia is, according to Glorianny) a ‘disproved theory’.
*Concern that if loos become unisex across the piece people in care settings will be at risk is ‘dredging up’ reasons to object (said to a poster with a profoundly disabled daughter).
*The perennial claim (aka ‘the trisher defence’, named after an ex poster who used it ever time the subject of men in the Ladies came up) that it’s ok as nobody checks your sex.
*The fact that many/most men wouldn’t use the Ladies proves that they are ‘open to men’ (bear with me) and are just choosing not to (ok, I give up).
* Women and girls should accept that they are at risk in toilets, only use them in groups, and be alert.
* When women use public loos, their friends should watch in case a man needs to use them. (I’m not sure whether this is so that the women can be warned, or so that they can make way, but neither would be necessary if the man just used the male facilities).
* There are cases of women attacking other women, so adding an additional risk is fine.

All of the above, we are told, is ‘based on more accurate and street-wise data than ours’ and now that we are in the clearer light of day, it was all ‘just a little balance’ against the arguments that boiled down to saying it is not safe to give men access to women’s loos. Hmmmm.

Oh, and I can’t see any character assassination of Izzard whatsoever. The fact that opening female spaces to males would give access to perverts is not suggesting that Izzard is a pervert, and makes no more sense than saying ‘some grass is green, some frogs are green, so some frogs are actually grass’.

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:04:21

???

Well, a dodgy curry excuses everything!
Vindaloo, here I come - open the windows, get out the air freshener

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 11:02:38

GrannyGravy13

I really cannot get my head round why it is that some females think it is perfectly acceptable for men complete with the genitalia they were born with to access female only spaces, in particular toilets.

Can you not see that it is men yet again wishing to control/deny women?

Because that's not the truth

Ultimately trans people need a wee and sometimes a poo of they are desperate enough do so in a public restroom due to a dodgy curry or something.

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 11:02:04

Yes right we are the flat earthersgrin

GrannyGravy13 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:00:07

I really cannot get my head round why it is that some females think it is perfectly acceptable for men complete with the genitalia they were born with to access female only spaces, in particular toilets.

Can you not see that it is men yet again wishing to control/deny women?

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 10:59:54

Interesting how these threads are ramping up.

We are now linking Eddie Izzard having a wee in a toilet she feels comfy in with pedophiles as if that is a completely rational argument.

If these are accepted gender critical arguments it surely won't be long until the rest of society shoves them in the same basket as flat earthers and they just become people we pat on the head and say "there there" too because ultimately they cannot do any harm.

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 10:56:33

My guess is that everyone on here will know which genitals I meant VS. Should we do a straw poll?

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 10:55:23

I think you have got a bit turned around in your reply galaxy

Galaxy Sun 02-Oct-22 10:54:03

By the right sort of genitals do you mean the ones that commit 97 % of violent sexual assaults.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:51:01

VioletSky grin

VioletSky Sun 02-Oct-22 10:47:15

Good on that woman for photographing someone in a restroom, we should all be taking pictures of people in restrooms and publicising them online so we can discuss whether they have the right sort of genitals under their clothes or if they are a menace to society.

In fact, let's just live stream the whole thing. Cameras in toilet bowls will flush out the interlopers.

If that's too expensive, we can just take the cubicle doors off. That way we can all feel comfortable no one is hiding a sausage.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:46:34

Callistemon21

Don't fire your arrows at me.

I saw the logic of someone's post but you missed it.

That's quite funny after you have just told me (wrongly) what I intended grin

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Oct-22 10:42:56

Don't fire your arrows at me.

I saw the logic of someone's post but you missed it.

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:38:22

Glorianny

Callistemon21

No Glorianny

You were trying to excuse what he did on the grounds that he has raised money for charity.

The two things are completely separate and you must know that.

I was very admiring of him when he ran the marathons.
I don't admire what he has just done.

I love it when others tell me what I intended.
(For the record it was just a little balance about the negative nature of the piece and included reference to his wealth which was earned, and his altruistic and humanitarian activities)

I don't actually need to "excuse" anything he/she did. I don't care which toilet he/she uses. So the idea that I am excusing anything is totally wrong. I'm simply saying object by all means, but if you need to assassinate a character, and link with paedophiles to do it, don't expect me to think that's OK.

henetha Sun 02-Oct-22 10:37:23

Yes, Galaxy, that makes perfect sense.

LadyGracie Sun 02-Oct-22 10:35:33

HE has always made me cringe.