Eddie Izzard

I support the creation of unisex toilets absolutely. Male, female and unisex of course. Unisex would be for anyone who felt comfortable using them, men, women, etc. Single sexed toilets available for those who need them.

Callistemon21

No Glorianny

You were trying to excuse what he did on the grounds that he has raised money for charity.

The two things are completely separate and you must know that.

I was very admiring of him when he ran the marathons.
I don't admire what he has just done.

I love it when others tell me what I intended.
(For the record it was just a little balance about the negative nature of the piece and included reference to his wealth which was earned, and his altruistic and humanitarian activities)

I have actually been in men's toilets a couple of times, - but accidentally,- being short sighted and a bit vague at times.
Eddie Izard is someone I always liked and respected, and she has done some amazing events for charity.
Nevertheless, she is still a man and should absolutely not enter ladies toilets. No way.

Chestnut

I think this problem would be solved if venues of all kinds had ONE toilet marked 'unisex' which is separate from male and female toilets. A notice below saying it is for transgender people just to be clear. Then everyone can get on with doing their business in a space they feel comfortable in.

That would be seen as drawing attention to trans people .
What's needed are separate, individual toilets, each with a handbasin.

Of course that would remove the communal space which is sometimes very useful in women's toilets.

No Glorianny

You were trying to excuse what he did on the grounds that he has raised money for charity.

The two things are completely separate and you must know that.

I was very admiring of him when he ran the marathons.
I don't admire what he has just done.

Whitewavemark2

I spent a day with Izzard at the hustings a few years ago. He seemed a pleasant enough person.

Can’t agree with him using female loos though. He needs to be more sensitive to the harm females have suffered as a result of men encroaching onto these spaces.

Perhaps we need lavatories that are non-binary?

I think that's a very balanced post. Thanks Whitewavemark2.
I think the great pity about the article in the OP is that it uses every possible slur to discredit Izzard. Simply saying "he's a nice person but I disagree with him on this" isn't apparently strong enough, a bit of character assassination is necessary as well. Such a pity women have to continue using the same tactics men always have..

I think this problem would be solved if venues of all kinds had ONE toilet marked 'unisex' which is separate from male and female toilets. A notice below saying it is for transgender people just to be clear. Then everyone can get on with doing their business in a space they feel comfortable in.

Eddie Izzard is a man, a man who sometimes dresses as a woman.

Men however they are dressed have no rights to use Female Toilets.

Not rocket science is it …

I am not familiar with this man and by the sound of it I think I prefer it that way. What gives any male the right to use a female toilet? I still have a memory of a foul male coming into a toilet when my daughters were very young and left a toilet door open. That is the danger if men are allowed to just stroll in. There are plenty of filthy creeps around, unfortunately.

He’s a complete and utter self centred, self regarding muppet.
He also looks utterly ridiculous in his micro skirts and his fake blooming boobs.
I’m going to have to hide this thread as he makes me so angry.
I met him years ago, before he was famous. I was with my friend and he seemed very scared of young, attractive women.

I think it's often quite difficult for men to understand that to be honest. I watched an interview with him once where he announced that all toilets should be unisex. You could tell that he hadnt thought for one second about whether women would agree with him on that, whether they would be comfortable. It was utterly irrelevant to him. He has never had to think about it, a change of clothes isnt going to change that.

I spent a day with Izzard at the hustings a few years ago. He seemed a pleasant enough person.

Can’t agree with him using female loos though. He needs to be more sensitive to the harm females have suffered as a result of men encroaching onto these spaces.

Perhaps we need lavatories that are non-binary?

Indeed womens boundaries and consent are unimportant if someone is fully clothed. By the way Glorianny I know many men who would be uncomfortable with a woman in a Male space. But who cares about the feelings of others when you want to prioritise your own needs.
If Eddie is in womens spaces then there is absolutely no reason why any man shouldnt be in there.

Did Izzard expose his penis in this toilet? Or was he fully clothed while waiting to go into the cubicle and washing his hands?

Definitely a trisher type post!
Sometimes the danger isn't even men. Toilets in pubs and clubs are great places for women to get at other women.But I suppose you think that doesn't happen.

So just because women might attack women in pub or club toilets, you think it’s OK for males to use female facilities?
That would be either the males like Ready Eddie who get their kicks out of doing things like that without a thought for the feelings of females, or the males who intend harm or discomfort to females.
Are you sick or do you simply not care about females? I can’t get past the idea that, had they claimed to be women, you would have supported /defended Rolf Harris and Jimmy Savile.

Glorianny any answer to my repeated post of 23.53? I understand if you are too embarrassed to say you don't give a tinker's cuss about anybody else's discomfort, not a caring, sharing thing to have to own.

Glorianny Toilets in pubs and clubs are great places for women to get at other women.But I suppose you think that doesn't happen .......goodness the news is absolutely full of reports of women abusing women, and as for the number of times women rape women, off the scale ......oh I forgot, you need a penis to rape. Eddie Izzard 'identifies' as a woman and he has a penis, so obviously 'women' can 'rape women'. I don't for one second think Eddie Izzard has ever raped a woman. In fact I'm sure he hasn't, but maybe, just maybe, some of his fellow 'woman identifiers' with intact penises have????

Doodledog

Who are your friends protecting you from, as they watch out for you , Glorianny? And who is it (specifically) that girls should be warned against?

They aren't protecting me they are watching in case any men need to use the loos.
I think I said male predators. I know they exist. I simply don't think they are deterred by signs, or that all those presenting as a different gender add to the danger. I think some toilets because of where they are are more dangerous than others. Sometimes the danger isn't even men. Toilets in pubs and clubs are great places for women to get at other women.But I suppose you think that doesn't happen.

Doodledog

Who are your friends protecting you from, as they watch out for you , Glorianny? And who is it (specifically) that girls should be warned against?

Good post! That wouldn't be penis owners by any chance? You know people like Eddie who have no intention of having their penis chopped off or inverted into a neo-vagina. And Eddie can't claim waiting lists, lack of finance etc. No Eddie enjoys using his male penis for sex and has no intention of denying himself that pleasure, his identification as a 'woman' stops at the clothing and makeup. As for "he passes" because as he said " old women look like men" how insulting!

Saying having single sex facilities provides any protection is simply not true. There are male predators and they will ignore the signs and security/public could eject/restrain/or otherwise deal with transgressors, but when anyone can say they are anything then the lines are too blurred for intervention. And selfish privileged bastards like Eddie Izzard are leading the line. Just wait until the next 'male' role is offered to Eddie and his female identity will fade quicker than the morning mist. At which point his adoring fanbase will find yet another reason to validate him.

Who are your friends protecting you from, as they watch out for you , Glorianny? And who is it (specifically) that girls should be warned against?

FarNorth

Oh dear, Glorianny your reasoning powers really are failing you.
That isn't what I said and isn't the point I was making.
Others clearly understood what I meant so it's unfortunate that you are having trouble with it.

In hope you'll get it this time:
Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

FarNorth, I fear you can’t say it often enough or simply enough for those unwilling to accept it, whichever name they’re currently using.

I don’t care how much bloody money EI has raised for charity , he should not go in womens toilets , neither should any other bloke that thinks it’s ok just because he feels he is a woman today, I am fed up with all this woke business and having to put up with people who try to force their views on us , just get on with what you are doing quietly, I do not want to go in a toilet and find a man in there too. End of

FarNorth

Oh dear, Glorianny your reasoning powers really are failing you.
That isn't what I said and isn't the point I was making.
Others clearly understood what I meant so it's unfortunate that you are having trouble with it.

In hope you'll get it this time:
Some Men are Dangerous to Women.
We Can't Know Which Men are Dangerous.
So We have Single Sex Facilities including Toilets.
That means Males & Females should Use Separate Facilities

I understand perfectly, I just don't agree. Firstly I think any girl should be told no toilet is 100% safe but especially warned about ones in pubs clubs and on the streets. Go with a friend or a group.
Saying having single sex facilities provides any protection is simply not true. There are male predators and they will ignore the signs
I simply don't believe that Eddie or all people presenting as a different gender add to, or increase, the danger to women.
And if I want to use a male toilet when there is a long queue at the women's I will do so. So do loads of other women. Usually there are a few of us and we watch out for each other. If others prefer to queue that's their right.
So actually I ignore the signs as well.
My reasoning powers are perfectly OK they just use more street wise and accurate data than yours.

Glorianny I suspect you were the poster trisher who often regaled us with using the mens loos. Any thought given to the men at the urinals who may have preferred not to have a woman walk past them? Do you have no respect for anyone other than those of whom you approve?
this was part of my post which was the last on the previous page, so I'll assume you didn't see it Glorianny rather than ducking the question. Would you care to comment on if you have any concern about causing unnecessary discomfort to others? Or are you one of the most important persons in the universe, along with the likes of Eddie? Any woman who didn't want to share the Ladies with Eddie at that event, what do you suggest? Cross their legs extra hard or suffer the embarrassment of urinating down their leg?