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Liz Truss has told King Charles not to go to the COP27 meeting next month

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Alie2Oxon Sun 02-Oct-22 10:01:49

This is what I have just heard said on the BBC 9am news. And yes, they used the word 'told'.

It isn't on their website. It's considerably toned down on the Guardian website. The mirror is even stronger - 'Liz Truss orders King Charles not to attend COP27 climate summit."

What the hell is going on here?

volver Sun 02-Oct-22 12:30:55

WHAT IS THE POINT OF A KING, HONESTLY?

Sorry, was I shouting?

25Avalon Sun 02-Oct-22 12:29:51

If you read the palace statement it ain’t gonna happen. King Charles took the PM’s advice and is mindful of the sovereign’s role to act on the government’s advice. He has already said he will stand back from his previous roles.

FannyCornforth Sun 02-Oct-22 12:20:10

But! Look at the bright side, if the King really does dislike Truss, he might be more likely to call for a GE. ?

FannyCornforth Sun 02-Oct-22 12:18:24

Lucca

He doesn’t look too thrilled

The way that she is gripping his hand is really odd. Very strange body language.
I’d be interested to see some footage of them together.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 02-Oct-22 12:09:53

?

Andrew Adonis

The breakdown in relations between Truss and Charles - something that never happened between his mother & any of her 16 prime ministers - is of huge constitutional significance. I’m not a supporter of an activist monarchy, but unwise of her to ban him speaking on climate change

volver Sun 02-Oct-22 11:43:16

In what way Caleo?

I keep thinking about this.... en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Charles_III_(play)

Doodledog Sun 02-Oct-22 11:43:00

A GE would be good, and even better if the new PM brought in laws to limit the powers of the government, and make clear the limits of their reach into the fabric of our democratic system.

I don't want to derail the thread, but it's a safe bet that we will have a new government soonish. How much of the damage the Tories have done to democracy can realistically be reversed when that happens? Have we become less democratic for all time, or can things be rolled back?

Caleo Sun 02-Oct-22 11:41:04

Volver, you sound like Elinor in Sense and Sensibility.

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:39:46

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Caleo Sun 02-Oct-22 11:39:27

Calistemon! Ruritania is quite possibly where I learned my earliest political affiliations.

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:39:26

That's not as exciting

Battle lines are being drawn.

volver Sun 02-Oct-22 11:37:47

I don't want armed insurrection. Just a GE to start with. wink

Callistemon21 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:36:22

That would be interesting, wouldn't it? The monarch starting a revolution against his own government ...

He is Head of the Armed Forces.

Now, everyone who thought the uniforms rather Ruritanian might think again and be rather glad ?

Caleo Sun 02-Oct-22 11:34:35

This going to align most people behind the King, on this occasion anyway, and may be as a sign that King Charles generally is a good egg.

Alie2Oxon Sun 02-Oct-22 11:31:53

I'm working this out as I go on:

Actually, it isn't a political belief - but she is making it one, for her own ends!

Doodledog Sun 02-Oct-22 11:29:48

Aldom

Lucca

He doesn’t look too thrilled

So disrespectful of her. Condescending too. No one touched the Queen in that way., or at all.

That struck me too.

Not that I'm advocating total deference, but come on! I wouldn't want a stranger touching me like that on first acquaintance. And less so if they were telling me what I could and couldn't do.

Aldom Sun 02-Oct-22 11:20:19

Lucca

He doesn’t look too thrilled

So disrespectful of her. Condescending too. No one touched the Queen in that way., or at all.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:11:39

MaizieD

Alie2Oxon

In any case, this is not a political belief, is it? It's a global problem and not a political one.

In the latest poll I've found (YouGov, April '22) 71% of the public accept that it's happening and 65% are worried.

I'm afraid that it is a political belief and the monarch is supposed to be apolitical.

OTOH, if he is backed by nearly three quarters of the population one wonders if it could be what sparks off the Revolution grin

That would be interesting, wouldn't it? The monarch starting a revolution against his own government...

?? I would join.

What a turn up for the books that would be

MaizieD Sun 02-Oct-22 11:09:54

Alie2Oxon

In any case, this is not a political belief, is it? It's a global problem and not a political one.

In the latest poll I've found (YouGov, April '22) 71% of the public accept that it's happening and 65% are worried.

I'm afraid that it is a political belief and the monarch is supposed to be apolitical.

OTOH, if he is backed by nearly three quarters of the population one wonders if it could be what sparks off the Revolution grin

That would be interesting, wouldn't it? The monarch starting a revolution against his own government...

henetha Sun 02-Oct-22 11:07:39

Well, this was on the BBC website this morning. -
"With mutual friendship and respect there was agreement that the King would not attend," the Palace stated.
I bet the King finds it very galling though to not attend a matter so important to him and for which he has fought for many years. And to be advised by someone like Liz Truss!
Of course he should go. I hope he does.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 02-Oct-22 11:03:12

Alie2Oxon

In any case, this is not a political belief, is it? It's a global problem and not a political one.

In the latest poll I've found (YouGov, April '22) 71% of the public accept that it's happening and 65% are worried.

But once Truss her cohorts and the press line up against him, Charles won’t stand a chance.

Alie2Oxon Sun 02-Oct-22 11:01:35

In any case, this is not a political belief, is it? It's a global problem and not a political one.

In the latest poll I've found (YouGov, April '22) 71% of the public accept that it's happening and 65% are worried.

Whitewavemark2 Sun 02-Oct-22 10:57:11

The battle lines are being drawn up.

I’m backing Charles - but I fear he will lose

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:49:08

I've just realised that much as I hate the RF if it came to it I'd back Charles not Truss!!!

Glorianny Sun 02-Oct-22 10:42:23

Oh I hope he goes. After all what will she do if he ignores her? Stand him in the corner? Give him lines to do? Honestly she's unbelievable.