£18bn cuts to public services

There are good and bad in all communities.

Hells Angel’s (bikers) raise thousands for charity year on year

Travellers, this is where it gets complicated as there are many groups logged together. We have had theft by travellers at our stable yard (caught on CCTV) we have also had our gutters cleared and our solar panels made bird proof by a traveller who could only be called a gentleman.

As I have become older and I hope wiser I try very hard not to label/judge people.

Sooo agree about HS2!! It's a white elephant , was from the start and Oop north we ALL knew it would never materialise! Same with "northern powerhouse"(slogan to make George Osbourne feel he has balls!) " Levelling up" (slogan to make Boris think he's going to keep the new blue consistuencies) it's all lies lies and more lies.
I cannot see how much closer to the bone services can be cut anyway? Maybe the highly skilled highly paid lowly taxed imaginary people truss thinks will come here will be up for cleaning up some sick and sluicing bed pans, or maybe doing a stint on the bins? Or better still, working as carers in homes for the elderly at minimum wage? Just a thought..........WHEN will we all learn to recognise a vampire when one bites us?!?!

MaizieD

^You have probably done some or all of those things yourself we all do it and so it perpetuates discrimination.^



Speak for yourself, Katie59.

You have Maizie. You have stereotyped those who do not automatically agree with the views MMT provides as being in some way "less than".

Well, if people won't challenge the lie that taxation funds spending; or even give the idea a bit of consideration, what else do you expect?

Casdon

Katie59

Yes, there was a group of bikers, on the pavement I did not feel comfortable so I crossed the road.
We get a lot of thieving by travellers, the police know exactly who is responsible, when the armed police squad go into their closed camp to recover property, nobody knows anything.

If you really believe the majority don’t discriminate passively, open your eyes.

I think you need some counselling to help you manage your unfounded fears Katie59. So much of what you’ve said comes from a catastrophising mindset, it’s not based on facts, and it sounds as though you worry about far more ‘risks’ to you than most people do.

Yes

Katie59

Yes, there was a group of bikers, on the pavement I did not feel comfortable so I crossed the road.
We get a lot of thieving by travellers, the police know exactly who is responsible, when the armed police squad go into their closed camp to recover property, nobody knows anything.

If you really believe the majority don’t discriminate passively, open your eyes.

I think you need some counselling to help you manage your unfounded fears Katie59. So much of what you’ve said comes from a catastrophising mindset, it’s not based on facts, and it sounds as though you worry about far more ‘risks’ to you than most people do.

We get a lot of thieving by travellers, the police know exactly who is responsible, when the armed police squad go into their closed camp to recover property, nobody knows anything.

I could cry. ? I don't even know how to explain how wrong headed this argument is. Maybe somebody more articulate will come along.

Yes, there was a group of bikers, on the pavement I did not feel comfortable so I crossed the road.
We get a lot of thieving by travellers, the police know exactly who is responsible, when the armed police squad go into their closed camp to recover property, nobody knows anything.

If you really believe the majority don’t discriminate passively, open your eyes.

You have probably done some or all of those things yourself we all do it and so it perpetuates discrimination.



Speak for yourself, Katie59.

No of course not, but srereotyping and discrimination will always happen, occasionally direct and violent, very often passive, within the minority there is some direct support and much more passive support. It’s true of many minority communities, I can think of at least 4 or 5 today, I’m not going to name them.

It should not happen but always will, the fact that some communities or groups do not follow the culture of the majority makes it more visible.

It’s not possible to legislate private opinions, those that are able move house, others avoid certain areas, or cross the road to avoid what they don’t like, send children to a “better” school. You have probably done some or all of those things yourself we all do it and so it perpetuates discrimination.

Katie59

JaneJudge

This is the kind of stuff Irish economic migrants had to face not even that long ago. Even into the 80s/90s

That’s hardly surprising considering the IRA terrorism at the time
If you are a migrant, terrorism originating in your community is not going to endear you to the rest of the population.

So all people with an Irish background were IRA sympathisers, were they?? Utter tosh! And people who even entertained the idea were bigots.

Katie59

JaneJudge

This is the kind of stuff Irish economic migrants had to face not even that long ago. Even into the 80s/90s

That’s hardly surprising considering the IRA terrorism at the time
If you are a migrant, terrorism originating in your community is not going to endear you to the rest of the population.

I'm unsure why your comment is still here, it does show how ignorant and prejudiced 'people' can be though..so maybe it's useful in a way...

Bluedaisy

Out of interest where is the £350million pounds a week going that Boris Johnson pledged to put into the NHS if we came out of Brexit??

I'm interested too

let alone shocked at the reply to my earlier comment on this thread

Just remember all of this come the next election.

Unfortunately, it will take a long time before Labour can sort out this mess, if ever.

We should have had an election instead of these Tory wannabes.

kevincharley

Grantanow

Tell your Tory MP he needs to tell Brady to change the rules to get rid of the Truss liability.

Sadly, my particular MP is so far up her wotsit I would be wasting my time.

Just checked our MP's website and yes, so is ours. ☹

Grantanow

Tell your Tory MP he needs to tell Brady to change the rules to get rid of the Truss liability.

Sadly, my particular MP is so far up her wotsit I would be wasting my time.

As a nurse of over 40 years (and still working in the NHS) within and outside the NHS, I have never voted to strike. I will this time! I don’t expect this will have a massive impact as I now have a desk job in a specialist role, but it’s the principle. I’m comfortably off, but this is about standing in solidarity with my NHS colleagues, the NHS and other colleagues across the public sector and public services - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! I suppose I am part of that anti growth rubbish that Truss (and her little gang )will keep repeating ad nauseum

I've just signed this petition: petition.parliament.uk/signatures/129138195/signed and emailed my MP about it. It demands a General Election before this 'Government' does any more damage. There are over half a million signatures on it already. There is a 'government response' at the foot of the page as required if a petition achieves 100,000 signatures, which blames Putin's war for the energy crisis which, whilst it is a factor the causes were in motion long ago...

if i only could hate the tories,as much as they hate people who don't see their world as they do,lying ,greedy ,sub humans.

Bluedaisy

Out of interest where is the £350million pounds a week going that Boris Johnson pledged to put into the NHS if we came out of Brexit??

Oh, come come, Bluedaisy, you know that was only a 'suggestion' ?

growstuff

The UK hasn't had a largely agricultural society for centuries.

You are accepting the premise that asylum seekers are mercenaries. Any evidence for that?

Generationally, I only have to go back to my grandfather's family to see that happening, but you are right, it has probably been the way from time immemorial.

So, I will say again, why all the attention on the young men being the first in their family who seek asylum? It seems an entirely reasonable way for families to try and escape whatever it is they are trying to escape.

I will treat your comments about mercenaries with the contempt it deserves. Anyone with two ha'p'orth of brains can see I didn't say anything to the sort.

Out of interest where is the £350million pounds a week going that Boris Johnson pledged to put into the NHS if we came out of Brexit??

Newgran59

HS2 was supposed to deliver high speed passenger services whilst freeing up the older infrastructure to carry container freight and remove a large number of lorries from our roads. That is where the environmental benefit is to be delivered.

Precisely. And we must get more freight back onto the railways. It was Thatcher that supported the road transport lobby over the railways.

I agree. They are trying to get rid of the NHS by making the system so awful.
I have had shoulder issues for some time and originally went to an osteopath to save the NHS time and money! After several treatments he has said that he can treat the problem but not the rout of the problem - I really need an x Ray or scan.
I messaged the gp, explained the problem and was given an appointment time to to see the practice physio who assessed me and said I need ongoing physio - he’d refer me and I could ring them in 5 days for an appointment - probably a 6 week wait. After 5 days 1 rang, eventually got through and told no referral had been made.
More messages and calls to the gp who then referred me again and ring for an appointment. The no. given was wrong both times. I rang the physio line again. Again they said no referral - then decided there was one but I needed to wait another 5 days before ringing to make an appointment! The original physio had said that I really shouldn’t wait before seeing someone as things only get worse.
In despair I have contact a private physio for assessment and made an appointment for 10 days time. I was loosing the will to live with the NHS.
In the meantime I still have restricted movement, wake at night in pain etc. I know there are lots of people needing treatment, loads worse off than me but the NHS really isn’t there for you when you need it anymore.

My new hip is retreating further into the distance? Public service cuts are always on the Tory’s hit list. It’s almost as though the Tory party are determined to self destruct

I found out last week that one of the services that has been cut is ear syringing. I have to have my ears syringed every three months, as this is now no longer available I will have to pay £60 a time to have then syringed. Where am I and all the other pensioners who desperately need this service supposed to find another £240 per year, on top of increasing food and heating bills. I believe the removal of this service will mainly effect the elderly, the very people who have paid NI from aged 15 to 60+.
The ones who have paid the most in.