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THERE should not be a second independence referendum even if the Supreme Court deems it legal, Liz Truss has said.

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paddyann54 Tue 04-Oct-22 14:32:49

Ach Granny23 Truss and Starmer both have the idea they will rebuild the "dis " united kingdom using the trillion pound bonus still under the North Sea.To do that they need to hang on to us by any means available .
Exactly the way the "uk" used all the colonies in the past ,hold onto them rob them and then tell anyone who they thinks will believe it that ,(add your own favourite) India was too poor andtoo stupid to run itself.All the while filling their pockets with 45 Trillion pounds of Indian wealth !
They've been doing it to us for over 3 centuries and sadly some "Scots" still believe the lies .This government will hopefully be the last WM government to rape and pillage our natural wealth .
England really needs to be able to afford all the stupid stuff it wants ...HS2 currently £100 billion, overbudget and way over its completion target ,Nuclear capability £250 Billion,not wanted by a majority of Scots and lets not forget the FLEET of ships sitting in a southern port with propeller issues...just like the Billion £ flagship 7 years late ....Dont hear all that on the BBC!!
They are too busy shouting about the ferry problem that was a fraction of any one of these

volver Tue 04-Oct-22 14:30:59

Just this...

www.heraldscotland.com/politics/22483799.scottish-independence-record-level-support-annual-survey/

Can we just stop pretending that it's only Sturgeon and the nasty ruling party in Holyrood who want this? Ta. smile

Granny23 Tue 04-Oct-22 14:05:10

I watched the BBC's news item last night re Conferring City Status on Dunfermline with KC & QCC present. The commentary was again (like much of the coverage of QE's death and funeral) like a political broadcast for the anti- Independence brigade. Now the King is supposed to be apolitical and as there is no intention to ditch the Royals i.e., the Union of the Crowns, as soon as independence is achieved, then any comments made by him which seem to support the Union, must be viewed as 'Political'.

I have written this, well aware that we get our information via the prism of the (almost exclusively Unionist) mainstream media, so may be given a biased, false interpretation of what was actually said.

Elegran Tue 04-Oct-22 10:24:11

The value of a referendum is that it tests the opinion of the ordinary population. Decisions by the party currently in power may or may not reflect the true grassroots position, but rather what the vocal majority at Holyrood would like to happen.

Perhaps there should be a ruling on how long an interval should be imposed between such constitutional changes, like the one in NI ? There should certainly be a high bar to be crossed before a yes majority is counted as a definite decision that the whole country wants a massive change - unlike the Brexit shambles.

I imagine Truss's attitude will cause more rather than fewer Scots to campaign to disassociate Scotland from Westminster. She doesn't exactly make friends and influence people, does she?

Prentice Tue 04-Oct-22 10:04:11

I do see that Scotland may be entitled to another referendum as we have left the EU and mainly the population did not wish to.After that, how many referendums does a country need or is sensible though?

Whitewavemark2 Tue 04-Oct-22 09:46:55

I suspect that Scotland will ignore her

Granny23 Tue 04-Oct-22 09:46:01

Her reasoning is the old chestnut that the 2014 referendum was deemed to be 'once in a generation'. Again we have to reiterate that this was a throwaway remark from Alex Salmond during the campaign rather than anything legally binding or recorded in the official documents. For me it was a 'first in a lifetime' opportunity to record my view.

In NI the position is that a vote on remaining in /leaving the UK can happen after 7 years. It has been 8 years since the Scottish vote.