Glorianny
Oh Doodledogyou are much too bright to pretend ignorance or misunderstanding.
I posted Rosie51's post.
If as she alleges Mermaids has a substantial input into schools then Violet Sky should know about them. But she doesn't know much.
You are now saying it's Stonewall with the input.
So which is it? Or is it neither?
The point is that either you are mistaken and there is no input from either organisation because someone actually working in a school knows little about them. Or you are saying the VS is lying or not taking on board the training provided.
Either way it doesn't really matter because what is emerging is that the allegations about the enormous input the two organisations have had are not supported by the evidence. And in fact you and Rosie51 are now contradicting each other. So stop trying to dodge the bullet and explain to me who has the influence in schools? and is VS just the exception who hasn't had all the input she's supposed to have had? or is the whole idea that these two organisations are busy converting people just a figment of the imagination?
Glorianny, this is a load of waffle in an attempt at a 'gotcha'.
(a) Rosie and I are allowed to contradict one another. We are two separate people, and do not post as one.
(b) Whether or not VS understands the input of organisations into schools or not is neither here nor there. It is the fact that she claims not to know about them that I find disconcerting. That's all. Rosie may have other thoughts on the matter, which last time I looked was ok.
(c) I thought you were of the opinion that telling people what they think is not ok?
(d) as I have already stated, I do not work, and never have worked in a school. My understanding of the input of the two organisations in question is that Stonewall provides general 'training' on what it sees as diversity, and gives its kite mark to organisations that fulfil its demands. Mermaids has a more advisory role, aimed at children and young people. Where adults are concerned it concentrates on answering questions from those who support children and young people, which may take the form of very specific training on single-issues. But, as I said, I may be wrong about that. As I have never worked with under 16s I have had no need to know the detail. I am far more concerned about the advice given by Mermaids to callers, who, on the whole, are minors, and who are encouraged to deceive their parents.
If I am mistaken (perfectly possible) it is not 'because someone actually working in a school knows little about them', which is what is confusing. It doesn't make sense. It is because, well, I am mistaken. I don't think I am though. Instead of doing the 'gotcha' thing, why not tell me whether you think I am right or wrong?
