Should the Coronation be “slimmed down”?

Ministers could face contempt of court proceedings unless they respond to a request for documents that could reveal how the late Queen concealed part of her private wealth from the public.

The documents may detail how the late monarch used a secretive financial facility to hide from the public the shares in commercial companies that she owned, along with the value of those shares.

The size of her personal fortune, including her investments, has never been disclosed to the public. Estimates regularly speculated that it could amount to hundreds of millions of pounds.

Last year the Guardian revealed how the Queen successfully lobbied the government to alter proposed legislation to prevent her shareholdings from being disclosed to the public.

Revealed: Queen lobbied for change in law to hide her private wealth

As a result of her lobbying in the 1970s, the government created a state-backed shell company, Bank of England Nominees, which appears to have kept secret the Queen’s private shareholdings and investments for more than three decades.

Documents obtained by the Guardian show that other members of the royal family were able to use the same company to conceal their investments in companies. The identities of the other Windsors, along with the scale of their shareholdings, are also unknown.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/oct/11/ministers-may-face-legal-action-documents-queen-hidden-wealth

biglouis

How much more tax payers money is going to be wasted on this bizarre carnival of stuffed puppets?

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I wonder why the same date of Archie’s birthday has been chosen. It could easily have been the week before or the week afterwards. It seems strange to me.

Maybe the Royal family could pay for it themselves I am not against the Royal family but they never seem to pay for things .

I wasn’t alive for the queen’s coronation. I’m already starting a planning session with friends about the coronation. I’m very happy for it not to be paired down. Relatives are wanting to come from abroad for it too.

Charles sees no problem with accepting bags of cash from Qatari politicians with questionable human rights records. If he were standing for election as head of state he would lose, and lose badly.
#NotMyKing #AbolishTheMonarchy

maddyone

I wonder why the same date of Archie’s birthday has been chosen. It could easily have been the week before or the week afterwards. It seems strange to me.

The Royal calendar is set months ahead, and has to accomodate the main players. No telling what various working royals have already planned for 6 months into next year, perhaps this was the best date for the majority.

The birthday of a four year old, living abroad, with parents no longer part of the equation? Up to them if they come with the children, and celebrate with a birthday tea after the main event is over I suppose.

Calendargirl

maddyone

I wonder why the same date of Archie’s birthday has been chosen. It could easily have been the week before or the week afterwards. It seems strange to me.

The Royal calendar is set months ahead, and has to accomodate the main players. No telling what various working royals have already planned for 6 months into next year, perhaps this was the best date for the majority.

The birthday of a four year old, living abroad, with parents no longer part of the equation? Up to them if they come with the children, and celebrate with a birthday tea after the main event is over I suppose.

It’s not been chosen for any connection with Archie’s birthday, I’m sure, that’s just a coincidence. It’s because there’s a pre existing bank holiday that weekend, and it will cause minimum disruption to hold the coronation that Saturday.

This is the 2nd time a poster has referred to it as being on the bank holiday weekend. Am I going barmy? It is the weekend after the May 1st bank holiday. (I think.)

Joseanne

This is the 2nd time a poster has referred to it as being on the bank holiday weekend. Am I going barmy? It is the weekend after the May 1st bank holiday. (I think.)

Sorry Joseanne, you’re right - Monday 1st is the mayday bank holiday, which they are talking about moving to Friday 5th, but it hasn’t yet been confirmed either if they are going to do that, or grant an extra bank holiday, or neither of those options.

Thanks Casdon. I guess we are going to end up calling it the bank holiday week because I don't doubt all the build up days before it will be frenetic with preparations, which ever day the actual bank holiday is! ?

Yes, thanks for reminding me about the long term arrangements the royals have in their calendars. It’s obviously a convenient and appropriate time for the coronation. Personally I would prefer if the Sussexes stayed away but I don’t suppose they will. Their connection to the royal family is needed for their commercial ventures.
I’m not really a royalist but I do enjoy the pomp and sense of occasion.

the sussex's will be very busy with archie's 4th birthday so will not be able to attend the coronation.. That's why the date was chosen no doubt.

No doubt it will give them the chance to lie.

Goodness but there are some very obsessed, nasty people on here. I do wonder if you realise you are a minority talking to yourselves.

Daisyanne includes yourself , 'on here'

I can't see that the date of the coronation has anything to do with Archie's birthday. There must have been several years back in the 90s when Harry's grandma, the Queen, was "busy" at work on his birthday and they didnt get together that day. It will be the same for Grandpa Charles being a bit busy on Archie's birthday. Four days earlier and it would have been Princess Charlotte's birthday. Just how it is with dates.

hulahoop

Maybe the Royal family could pay for it themselves I am not against the Royal family but they never seem to pay for things .

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I really can't be bothered with it, hopefully I'll have something better to do on the coronation day than watch it on television. Something on the news will be enough for me.
It should in my opinion be a slimmed down event.

Grumpy Grannies? Maybe there could be a separate Grump thread? The coronation is a thing to be proud of, the British do these things so well. The whole world will be watching on, there shouldn’t be anything half arsed.

I wouldn't be proud of a coronation. What is there to be "proud" of? If the whole world is watching, there's a good chance they'll be thinking "what is going on in that country???"

Maybe it could happen in Australia. He is King of Australia too, after all.

The Sussexes were over here for the Jubilee when it was Lilibet’s 1st birthday.

To me, a first birthday would be just, if not more, significant than a fourth, so can’t see why the date ‘clash’ really matters.

Let’s face it, they only need to fly over on the Friday, and can return on the Sunday.

Expect the private jet will get an outing.

I just checked the calendar. We will be in Málaga it seems (Himself’s birthday on 6th). Suits me fine and I won’t be watching television that’s for sure! I hope to be on the beach for the day.
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It's funny how we all focus on future dates many months or years ahead, like the coronation, the GE, a holiday, a sporting fixture, a family birthday, Christmas etc - all important in their own way. I guess they add structure to our lives, but really they are all just events that have a page in the diary. The important thing for me is not to let them niggle or spoil the present days. They will happen and life will move on to the next. Strangely comforting in a way.

Grumpy Grannies? Maybe there could be a separate Grump thread? The coronation is a thing to be proud of, the British do these things so well. The whole world will be watching on, there shouldn’t be anything half arsed.

If I was watching on from another country I would be thinking “how strange that they think it’s right to spend a fortune on a such a lavish ceremony. Isn’t that the country where working people, including many NHS staff, queue at food banks to feed their families”?