Should the Coronation be “slimmed down”?

Yes we should have a grand celebration but we don't need for the media to start its coverage and presenters claptrap 2 weeks before the actual coronation

I think it should be slimmed down. Otherwise to me it represents the huge gap between the haves and have nots in our society. I like Charles and respect him for wanting a less ostentatious ceremony. It will still have the pageant of a historic occasion, but we live in a different world and the Queen's coronation was a very different affair. People will still watch it , even if it's slimmed down . I think King Charles has got the right idea and he should decide.

It's not a legal requirement. Charles is already King. We could save taxpayers' money by not having one at all and free police and other services for their real jobs.

Nothing to do with the popularity of the sovereign.
It has long been known (according to the media) that the King wanted a pared down RF and coronation.
I agree with Urmstongran that Charles knows that for the RF to survive it need to remain relevant to a modern society.
A display of ostentatious wealth is completely inappropriate in the current climate.

I have read today( for what it’s worth) that the service will be just over an hour instead of three, with 2000 guests instead of 8000.

When the queen passed, the expense of the funeral and associated activities were justified as tradition

Why tradition should be skipped now? Iant it a double standard based on how much the person in power is liked?

The ‘religious mumble jumbo’ will still form part of a ‘slimmed down’ coronation I hope.

It’s an important part of the proceedings.

Charles is still ‘defender of the faith’, and like his mother, his faith is part of his life I’m sure.

I agree with Urmstongran I think the new king is well aware of the need for change and will act accordingly. I wouldn't want to lose all the pomp and ceremony though, I love that and we do it so well.

I agree the actual ceremony needs to be slimmed down, I do not think it needs to be hours and hours long don't forget Charles is in his 70s unlike his mother who was only in her 20s. The money making part I am sure will not be slimmed down and I am sure that everything from a tea towel to a toilet roll will be sold , street parties and bunting can be put up , any excuse for a knees up and a drink and tourist can visit and see a parade again any excuse to visit , especially if the pound stays low against the dollar.

Now that would be a good new thread Grandma70s.

MaizieD

^Any major event in any city is going to raise money, isn't it?^

Of course it is, volver. And we can't afford to be too sniffy about what the event is. Unless, of course, it's harmful to us.

(Which I realise could start another debate...)

I’d rather have a coronation than Eurovision. At least the music would be better.

biglouis

How much more tax payers money is going to be wasted on this bizarre carnival of stuffed puppets?

I agree Biglouis. If they want another day of “playing at dressing up”then they should pay for it out of their own money.

I disagree that a big coronation would help the economy. On the contrary the opposite would be true. Tax payers would have to foot the bill after all.

Exactly bigloius!

How much more tax payers money is going to be wasted on this bizarre carnival of stuffed puppets?

Urmstongran

I think Charles wants to capture the mood of the people. He knows the monarchy needs to slim down. He’s said it for years. It’s bloated and sclerotic and he’s aware that to survive it needs to stay (more) relevant to a modern society. If the populace rebel about the institution the axe will eventually fall. He’s read the room I think.

Can't disagree with that.
Yes, slim it down by all means but I would be sorry if we lost too many of our ancient traditions so, Duke of Norfolk, be very careful what's lost and what's included.

What is a coronation putting a crown on Head.

That's for fairy tales. Kings Queen's Princes Princesses ? that's where it should stay.

But propaganda keeps people believing

I don't.

King don't represent the people just the polititions and the monarchy. Who makes sure the laws of our unwritten constitution are kept? Not the king.

How much more tax payers money is going to be wasted on this bizarre carnival of stuffed puppets?

I am massively in favour of cutting out all the religious mumbo jumbo and having a simple inauguration ceremony similar to that held in some other consitutional monarchies such as Sweden, Spain and the Netherlands. The UK is no longer a Christian country but one of many faiths and no faith so the ceremony should be a civil one. Heads of State are no longer "chosen by god". Charles I came to a sticky end believing that one! He was beheaded.

I think Charles wants to capture the mood of the people. He knows the monarchy needs to slim down. He’s said it for years. It’s bloated and sclerotic and he’s aware that to survive it needs to stay (more) relevant to a modern society. If the populace rebel about the institution the axe will eventually fall. He’s read the room I think.

I didn’t say they should move into simple flats

I thought it had been agreed years ago, if not decades ago, that King Charles' coronation would be slimmed down.

Anniebach

If they move into flats , high rise or over a shop ? would the other tenants be comfortable with security

oh for goodness sake!

But you asked what would happen if they moved...??

Oh, never mind. ??

They live in their own house

Well them's the rules. No security for She Who Must Not Be Named, then none for Eddie and his wife over the shop.

Harry and Megan don’t agree with you