Protesters on the QE II Bridge

Leave them up there, they will soon get fed up and cold

And apparently unable to understand sarcasm but quite able to use it.

That's pretty accurate Chestnut.

Yep! You’ve got it Prentice.
I too have noticed your remarks Volver dear, are often simply being contentious for the sake of it?

volver

I'm not the one who is wrong.

Sometimes they fall out of the pub and fall into the river and need to be pulled out by the Lifeboatmen.

Trying to shame me won't work.

You've proved that time and time again ??

Never wrong and never to be shamed.

I live very close to the Dartford /Essex bridge/ tunnel and not a day goes by when the whole town isn't in gridlock because of volume of traffic and regular accidents both on the bridge and roads nearby. The air quality is very poor due to the traffic stopping and starting and I just want to say please avoid if you can. Especially if you are a protestor. Thankyou.

I'm not the one who is wrong.

Sometimes they fall out of the pub and fall into the river and need to be pulled out by the Lifeboatmen.

Trying to shame me won't work.

Volver A jumper is a disturbed individual who is displaying a need for support and understanding. They will not be doing it with the intent of disrupting as many lives and businesses as possible. They don't consider the impact on anyone else because they are too distressed. That you equate an individual at rock bottom thinking suicide is the answer with a couple of protestors able to climb high up the support wires of a bridge and determined to inflict misery on others is so wrong.

What these guys have done today is a real nuisance and at huge cost to the convenience of many and the life events and health of others. It also looks very dangerous for them personally - I wouldn't be brave enough to do it on so many levels. The must be very committed to the cause.

Something has to be done about our reliance on oil (for various reasons) and this government have no clear and convincing policies on how to achieve this.

All people want and expect is a compelling policy and 100% commitment. If our leaders could provide this then perhaps people would stop doing such irritating, attention seeking things.

Prentice

volver

And I see the old who have no concern for the environment and want to start fracking and stop all this net zero "nonsense".

Your point?

Where in Scotland do you see them Volver ?

Rarely in Scotland.

Mainly on Gransnet.

Perhaps I should not engage with your remarks Volver as I see you are simply being contentious for the sake of it.

volver

And I see the old who have no concern for the environment and want to start fracking and stop all this net zero "nonsense".

Your point?

Where in Scotland do you see them Volver ?

Are you calling the "jumpers" idiots?

How unpleasant.

I think we all understand the environmental message, but it could easily have been promoted in a way not designed to hamper the emergency services at least.A march will do this, or a large group protesting in an open public space.

volver

I went to University in Dundee, then worked there for 25 years. When the bridge closed I went via Perth. It closes quite often because of "jumpers". I don't think they should be horse whipped, though.

This is a random comment Volver as who has said they should be horsewhipped?
So Dundee was a good guess on my part then, but going via Perth because idiots had closed the bridge at Dundee, may be alright if inconvenient to some, but a matter of life or death for others.

And I see the old who have no concern for the environment and want to start fracking and stop all this net zero "nonsense".

Your point?

The young are often thoughtless though, as we probably all were once upon a time.
I do see youngsters drinking from plastic bottles, single use, all the time where I live, and munching crisps and throwing both bottles and wrappers on the ground afterwards.Usually on their way home from school.

MerylStreep

What a shame it’s quite warm today with little wind blowing ?

What a nasty comment.

I went to University in Dundee, then worked there for 25 years. When the bridge closed I went via Perth. It closes quite often because of "jumpers". I don't think they should be horse whipped, though.

Chestnut

I have suggested on another thread they should be targeting youngsters who are buying the latest mobile phones, buying fast fashion, buying water in plastic bottles, buying everything that's disposable. The consumer society has a lot to answer for.

I don't know a single young person who buys single use plastic water bottles. Obviously there are some - but in my experience, young people all carry reusable bottles. Its the older people in my world constantly buying single use plastic bottles.

However - if it is the "youngsters" as you say - maybe look at their parents and grandparents for how they were brought up.

I truly detest that the first thing so many do is slate the young - the ones who had no part in making the world what it currently is.

Volver I do expect you may well be indignant from Dundee or somewhere else in Scotland, if a major bridge was closed near you and you had an urgent appointment, or medical emergency.
The truth is that these environmental groups are not only causing chaos on the roads and in city centres but also preventing heart attack and stroke victims, amongst others from receiving urgent treatment in hospitals, along with stopping others from getting to weddings, funerals and many other important appointments.Their treatment up to now has been far too lenient.
I would have left them on the bridge for several hours before closing it.They will have clamped themselves to girders I expect, but a taste of ‘the high life’ up there for quite a while may have done them good.

GG
It’s ok. My backs broad ?

MerylStreep

GranyGravy
I’m here. Waving from Southend ?

Sorry MerylStreep I didn’t mean to ignore you ??

GranyGravy
I’m here. Waving from Southend ?

I think they do have to close the bridge. Not so much for their safety but the traffic below.

People will be peering up, rubber necking and possibly end up causing an accident.