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The Brexit Effect

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varian Wed 19-Oct-22 09:54:12

The Brexit effect: how leaving the EU hit the UK

A film from the Financial Times

www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO2lWmgEK1Y

varian Tue 25-Oct-22 12:46:13

Whitewavemark2

Caleo

I Am 64, everyone who reads a newspaper knows the NHS has benefitted since Brexit , as promised . There is now a sufficiency of well paid nurses and doctors.

????

When you say "everyone who reads a newspaper" do you actually mean everyone who reads The Daily Express"??

Prentice Tue 25-Oct-22 12:43:53

Katie59

Let’s forget about joining EEA for now, it’s 2 yrs until the next GE, anything can happen in that time, Ukraine may be settled quickly or it could be WW3. For the UK it’s not going to be easy whoever is in power.
Probably Sunak is the least worse option, if he is seen to be fair and firm he will do well, he is never going to give away as much as some want. There is plenty of scope for reducing inefficiency and wasteful spending, we will see what the budget changes, I don’t think more borrowing is a problem as long as it is targeted to more growth, borrowing for more giveaways is not going to be well recieved.

I think this an excellent assessment of the situation.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Oct-22 12:43:42

Caleo

I Am 64, everyone who reads a newspaper knows the NHS has benefitted since Brexit , as promised . There is now a sufficiency of well paid nurses and doctors.

????

Caleo Tue 25-Oct-22 12:38:55

I Am 64, everyone who reads a newspaper knows the NHS has benefitted since Brexit , as promised . There is now a sufficiency of well paid nurses and doctors.

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Oct-22 10:29:41

varian

An estimated 50,000 people marched through London at the weekend campaigning for the Uk to rejoin the EU.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/22/thousands-of-london-protesters-call-for-uk-to-rejoin-eu

This doesn't seem to have been reported at all by the BBC or most of the national media apart from The Guardian.

Yes I was impressed giving the fact that it isn’t high on the agenda at the moment.

varian Tue 25-Oct-22 10:27:30

An estimated 50,000 people marched through London at the weekend campaigning for the Uk to rejoin the EU.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/oct/22/thousands-of-london-protesters-call-for-uk-to-rejoin-eu

This doesn't seem to have been reported at all by the BBC or most of the national media apart from The Guardian.

Katie59 Tue 25-Oct-22 10:10:00

Whitewavemark2

Sunak will not succeed unless he confronts the reality of billions of lost revenue year on year due to Brexit.

If he doesn’t, his time as PM will end as all the others have ended.

In failure.

Sunak’s problem is that he has to live with the current trade agreements, because right wing Tories will withdraw support.

When did the last PM finish with success ?.

Katie59 Tue 25-Oct-22 09:57:55

DaisyAnne

Was the EEA mentioned Katie59. I missed that.

The European Economic Area is the Customs Union or formerly European Free Trade Area

Whitewavemark2 Tue 25-Oct-22 07:31:36

Sunak will not succeed unless he confronts the reality of billions of lost revenue year on year due to Brexit.

If he doesn’t, his time as PM will end as all the others have ended.

In failure.

DaisyAnne Mon 24-Oct-22 23:38:40

Was the EEA mentioned Katie59. I missed that.

Katie59 Mon 24-Oct-22 22:28:20

Let’s forget about joining EEA for now, it’s 2 yrs until the next GE, anything can happen in that time, Ukraine may be settled quickly or it could be WW3. For the UK it’s not going to be easy whoever is in power.
Probably Sunak is the least worse option, if he is seen to be fair and firm he will do well, he is never going to give away as much as some want. There is plenty of scope for reducing inefficiency and wasteful spending, we will see what the budget changes, I don’t think more borrowing is a problem as long as it is targeted to more growth, borrowing for more giveaways is not going to be well recieved.

DaisyAnne Mon 24-Oct-22 21:18:30

Either would work at the moment wink

Iam64 Mon 24-Oct-22 21:03:11

Or maybe by those older white men /women in Surrey who believe the lies pedalled by Johnson and co

DaisyAnne Mon 24-Oct-22 20:57:50

I hate to say it, but I doubt it is spoof Iam. My conspiracy theory is that GN has been taken over by 15-year-olds.

Iam64 Mon 24-Oct-22 20:45:01

Caleo

Brexit ,for all its bad press, certainly did keep the promise to fund our NHS.

Is this an ironic, spoof post? !
If not, please provide figures to show where the NHS benefitted

DaisyAnne Mon 24-Oct-22 18:35:55

MaizieD

Fleurpepper

LadyGracie

What Brexit, we’re still being unnecessarily lead by the nose by the EU in many aspects.

Which ones? Can you be more explicit please?

Ever the optimist. Fleurpepper....

Oh, come on Maizie. You know there is a deep state organisation exercising power against us. How could the EU not be part of it? There it is, wanting its own rules and not treating us as the superior beings we are. And then there are the "administrators", those dreadful civil servants, who are in cahoots with them. Of course, the EU will spend all its time making our lives more difficult.

Sorry, I have had enough of numpty news angry I think Fleurpepper will be a long time waiting.

MaizieD Mon 24-Oct-22 13:33:05

Fleurpepper

LadyGracie

What Brexit, we’re still being unnecessarily lead by the nose by the EU in many aspects.

Which ones? Can you be more explicit please?

Ever the optimist. Fleurpepper....

Fleurpepper Mon 24-Oct-22 13:20:35

LadyGracie

What Brexit, we’re still being unnecessarily lead by the nose by the EU in many aspects.

Which ones? Can you be more explicit please?

LadyGracie Mon 24-Oct-22 13:13:20

What Brexit, we’re still being unnecessarily lead by the nose by the EU in many aspects.

volver Mon 24-Oct-22 13:12:24

My part of Scotland was the east coast from Buchan to Fife, Edinburgh, Perth, Inverness, Moray Firth. Guess you were somewhere else.

IrishDancing Mon 24-Oct-22 12:50:51

Volver I’m glad it was wonderful in your part of Scotland, it wasn’t in mine …

MaizieD Mon 24-Oct-22 12:48:34

I would like to think that at a stroke we could join, the lobby against that will be very strong.

If Labour gain power with a good majority (which I'm sure they will, because Sunak's proposed austerity isn't going to enamour the electorate of him) what lobby would that be, Katie59?

growstuff Mon 24-Oct-22 12:46:36

Caleo

Brexit ,for all its bad press, certainly did keep the promise to fund our NHS.

Eh? confused

MaizieD Mon 24-Oct-22 12:45:21

Caleo

Brexit ,for all its bad press, certainly did keep the promise to fund our NHS.

You have to be joking...

Katie59 Mon 24-Oct-22 12:33:55

India certainly has tough reciprocal entry restrictions with the UK because we choose to restrict their citizens entry. For goods they have high tariffs on all imports, this is an increasing issue with China.