The monarchy

nadateturbe

^What about William gets over £20 million
Like winning the lottery every year^

Any comments from monarchists?

No? Thought so.

What would you like people to say?
I’ve no idea what other GN earn, or whether they’re worth what they’re paid.
I’ve no idea how many GN have inherited wealth, no matter on what scale, or get paid out of my taxes whether I like it or not?
Am we allowed to choose whether we contribute to the upkeep of of a HoS that I haven’t voted for or don’t particularly want any more than republicans have a choice about contributing in whatever way we do to the RF.
Why do they feel one choice should be allowed but not the other?
I don’t see why republicans (of which republic?) shouldn’t argue that the UK or bits of it ought to be a republic, but starting a thread called The Monarchy and just talking about republics is weird.

We're not talking about other GNetters.
I would like monarchists to admit what is blindingly obvious.

but starting a thread called The Monarchy and just talking about republics is weird.

The OP is almost exclusively about the role of the King and the Royal Family.

nadateturbe

nadateturbe

^What about William gets over £20 million
Like winning the lottery every year^

Any comments from monarchists?

No? Thought so.

The answer from monarchists will clearly be ‘So what, he’s worth it’ nadeturbe. Your ‘blindly obvious’ is somebody else’s ‘I don’t care.’ There isn’t a right or wrong, just different options about the same issue. And - nobody is budging, on either side. That’s why I’m ambivalent, it’s just not worth wasting energy over and there are far more important things going on at home, and in the world at the moment.

That William gets whatever you say he gets, for whatever he does.
OK If you say so.
I can’t admit that something that doesn’t exist is better than something that exists, just on the say-so of other people.

Are we allowed to choose whether we contribute to the upkeep of a HoS that we haven’t voted for or don’t particularly want any more than republicans have a choice about contributing in whatever way we do to the RF.
Why do republicans feel one choice should be allowed but not the other?

its just not worth wasting energy over

Dismissing something people have sincere misgivings about as "not worth wasting energy over" is very dismissive and very unlike you Casdon

Volver you slightly misprepresented me. I said Brexit was supported by under-educated voters. Lack of education is a direct cause of gullibility and deference to authority or superficial charisma.

Supporters of republicanism impress me as better educated than monarchists. I am a monarchist insofar as at least a Windsor monarch will be more decent than the dictators we know of.

Right, so William is worth £20m.
Hmm...I wonder how?

No good change ever came about by those who wanted it doing nothing. It's not a waste of energy.

Caleo

Volver you slightly misprepresented me. I said Brexit was supported by under-educated voters. Lack of education is a direct cause of gullibility and deference to authority or superficial charisma.

Supporters of republicanism impress me as better educated than monarchists. I am a monarchist insofar as at least a Windsor monarch will be more decent than the dictators we know of.

As I've said before, thinking somebody is good because at least they're better than Khanenei/Putin etc is not the dazzling endorsement you think it is.

I don't think it's a "dazzling endorsement". It's just a little better than a theocrat or mafia stuyle dictator .
Also I am enchanted by the Windsor circus, especially the horses,I confess

what can you even spend 20m a year on? it's an incredibly vulgar amount of money when social care isn't even funded properly

Supporters of republicanism impress me as better educated than monarchists. I am a monarchist insofar as at least a Windsor monarch will be more decent than the dictators we know of.
Better educated people? ????
No proof, and comments like that, made by several posters on here, are certainly not examples of better manners, or don’t republicans value good manners?

Mollygo Your posts would be much easier to read, and have more impact, if you adopted the Gransnet convention and used italics for quotations, thus:

Supporters of republicanism impress me as better educated than monarchists. I am a monarchist insofar as at least a Windsor monarch will be more decent than the dictators we know of.

Or even quotation marks, as I did above. That would help.

volver

^its just not worth wasting energy over^

Dismissing something people have sincere misgivings about as "not worth wasting energy over" is very dismissive and very unlike you Casdon

I didn’t word that well, I should have said I’ve decided it’s not worth me wasting my energy over volver, sorry - I just can’t get steamed up one way or another.

Casdon ?

Mollygo

Supporters of republicanism impress me as better educated than monarchists. I am a monarchist insofar as at least a Windsor monarch will be more decent than the dictators we know of.
Better educated people? ????
No proof, and comments like that, made by several posters on here, are certainly not examples of better manners, or don’t republicans value good manners?

Yes Mollygo I agree with you that the quoted words are ridiculous, as who is to decide who is the better educated?Who can even know?
Education and intelligence aside, because they do not enter into this matter, monarchists and republicans will never agree.
They have decided for themselves which side of the fence to sit on.

Thank you Prentice.
It’s quite obvious on here who thinks they are the arbiters of better educated. Doesn’t mean they’re any more correct than I would be if I said republicans appear to be less well educated, but it keeps them happy.
So sorry your majesties for not following your rules re punctuation. I thought posters only did that on the Pedant thread.

Geez there’s some snobs around on this thread. Makes me want to turn into a monarchist.

One person said she though republicans were better educated. Others immediately disagreed with her.

Yet others are playing at being martyrs.

Yes Volver dear. We know when you’re not happy. ?

Your really stuffed if you support the monarchy and voted for Brexit, aren’t you. ?

Oh I don't know. We're stuck with both. ?

There are repeated references throughout this thread to "despicable" Heads of State. eg Putin, Mugabe, Trump, etc, but every one of the examples quoted are Political heads of government. The HoS that most republicans propose would be Non Political so that comparison seems pointless.
Can anyone name a non political HoS whom they consider deplorable?

nadateturbe

nadateturbe

^What about William gets over £20 million
Like winning the lottery every year^

Any comments from monarchists?

No? Thought so.

It's not money from the taxpayer.

It is income from the Duchy of Cornwall.
It is taxable.