So it is going to be Sunak

25Avalon

Whitewavemark2

25Avalon

You reckon DaisyAnne? Tories are so disunited. Not all back Sunak and how is he to recoup the billions of pounds he spent during lockdown? What about the green visa he kept for the US? What about his wife only just paying tax in this country?

Honeymoon period - won’t last as he inflicts further harm to the economy through austerity.

Unless he has seen the light if course?

I fear you are right WWM2 - the austerity bit I mean.

I didn't "reckon" anything Avalon. It is a fact that they legally have just over two years.

Obviously, they may choose to go earlier but they don't have to. The rest, as the man said, is politics.

Thanks maybe - I trust Martin Lewis. I don’t think it will happen either and, even if it did, would the price reduction ‘trickle down’ to us - I doubt it! More profit for the energy giants. We all know trickle down doesn’t work.

Rees-Mogg has ‘resigned’.

Whitewavemark2

What I do think, is however, that Sunak has integrity, and I would expect him to be intolerant of corruption, and all the deviances the Tories seem so interested in.

Well, If you think getting away with paying £56million in tax, by claiming non-dom status and lying about partygate, describes "integrity" we must have very different interpretations of the word.

LizzieDrip

^Gas prices are already in line to tumble next spring I’ve read.^

… so not ‘turned around’ by Sunak then. I wonder if he’ll acknowledge that the government hasn’t brought gas prices down, just global events?

Martin Lewis doesn’t think that will happen.

Gas prices are already in line to tumble next spring I’ve read.

… so not ‘turned around’ by Sunak then. I wonder if he’ll acknowledge that the government hasn’t brought gas prices down, just global events?

save us from the disaster of a Labour government.

Can you elaborate on this? What are the reasons for your belief that a Labour government would be a disaster? I’m genuinely interested!

Whitewavemark2

25Avalon

You reckon DaisyAnne? Tories are so disunited. Not all back Sunak and how is he to recoup the billions of pounds he spent during lockdown? What about the green visa he kept for the US? What about his wife only just paying tax in this country?

Honeymoon period - won’t last as he inflicts further harm to the economy through austerity.

Unless he has seen the light if course?

I fear you are right WWM2 - the austerity bit I mean.

MayBee70

Brexit hasn’t been delivered. The still haven’t sorted out the Irish problem which was pretty much ignored in the run up to the referendum.

The Tories themselves have chosen not to implement border checks for imported goods, as they know it would be so damaging!!!

Urmstongran

Mr Sunak told a BBC documentary in 2007 that he had friends across all social classes, before awkwardly admitting “well, not working class”.

TBH, even though he seems totally unworldly and far removed from life experienced by ordinary folk, this should not bar him from showing empathy and introducing policies of fairer distribution etc.

I suspect that he won’t though.

Mr Sunak told a BBC documentary in 2007 that he had friends across all social classes, before awkwardly admitting “well, not working class”.

25Avalon

You reckon DaisyAnne? Tories are so disunited. Not all back Sunak and how is he to recoup the billions of pounds he spent during lockdown? What about the green visa he kept for the US? What about his wife only just paying tax in this country?

Honeymoon period - won’t last as he inflicts further harm to the economy through austerity.

Unless he has seen the light if course?

You reckon DaisyAnne? Tories are so disunited. Not all back Sunak and how is he to recoup the billions of pounds he spent during lockdown? What about the green visa he kept for the US? What about his wife only just paying tax in this country?

Franbern

To me he is still just another extremely rich, right wing tory. Expect nothing from him that will really be good for the majority of us. The rich will continue getting rich and the poor will continue getting poorer.

He's not rich, he's from a middle class background but his wife's father is very rich.

If you believe a wife's property belongs to her husband, then yes, he is rich. But those days are gone.
I expect she is loving and generous and may want to change the wallpaper though ?

What I do think, is however, that Sunak has integrity, and I would expect him to be intolerant of corruption, and all the deviances the Tories seem so interested in.

If ‘a week is a long time in politics’ two years is almost a lifetime! Plenty of time to turn events around. Gas prices are already in line to tumble next spring I’ve read. Then factor in the BoE saying last week inflation ‘won’t be as bad as feared’ things could look very much different by next summer. When of course Sunak will want to dole out some treats.

Much of the national and global ills are rooted in Covid and Ukraine, out of Sunak’s control, stability is probably the best result we can hope for

Whitewavemark2

? you wish

They have two years Whitewave. That is a fact not a theory. They may choose to go to the country before that, but he does have two years.

watch watched

Brexit hasn’t been delivered. The still haven’t sorted out the Irish problem which was pretty much ignored in the run up to the referendum.

? you wish

I liked Richi’s use of the word integrity in his brief speech yesterday.

Time will tell of course but I somehow feel that the party is now in a safe pair of hands.

Different leaders fulfill different roles, at various stages of a government in power. Boris was completely the right person back in 2019. He clicked with so many people, many of whom had never voted Conservative in their lives.
He did what he said he would do, especially finally, at last, delivering Brexit for us, as well as seeing us through the worst of the pandemic.
As we know now though, he made some errors of judgment which, rightly or wrongly, led to his downfall.

Richi now has two years to prove himself, unite the party and put the Conservatives in a strong position to save us from the disaster of a Labour government.

At least he is sane Urnstongran. I know that doesn't set the bar high, but I have just watch Truss's final statement and I am relieved to have sanity in control.

He was fined for breaking lockdown rules so tainted by partygate. He is a relatively inexperienced politician and he is taking over the leadership of a very fractured Conservative party. I will be surprised if he can make a success of the next two years, if he lasts that long.

Although anyone would seem moderate after Truss, let’s not kid ourselves that he’s anything but a right wing Tory, and we will soon be seeing evidence of this.
Didn’t he support sending refugees to Rwanda?