Petition : *Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex*

It’s no business of anyone why people have different views on anything*

Agreed. And it's no business of anyone's to accuse others of supporting male supremacy, just because they don't agree with you.

You might, of course, be interested in learning that I never sign these petitions because they never lead to anything and they are a great way for people to virtue signal, and comfort themselves that they are doing something important.

My confirmation email arrived!👏
It’s no business of anyone why people have different views on anything, whether it’s sex, family behaviour, duvets, punctuation, or many other topics.
But when has that stopped posters on GN from putting their own interpretations, commenting, or telling others they’re wrong or even getting posters banned if they don’t like what someone says.
That’s what’s going on here - except
we won’t know about the exclusions until someone else finds they’ve been reported.

It is interesting who’s saying no though, especially since most on here purport to be female.

Sex is a protected characteristic, I think this is an interesting move. I was very unsure about the legal campaign around gender critical views being a protected belief, but that was absolutely the right thing to do.

No

Signed.

I've pretty much had enough of people telling me if I don't agree with them then I want to take rights away from women or that I think male supremacy is ok.

These extreme views is what generally keeps me away from these threads.

Rosie51

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Rosie51

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Mollygo

Rosie51

Signed. I do wonder why anybody who agrees with all the other protected characteristics in the EA wouldn't think the 'sex' characteristic should be defined according to sex. Gender is a protected category. Are they frightened if sex is properly defined and protected as in biology, women might actually retain some protections?

Exactly that Rosie51.
By not signing, they make it quite clear that for them, male supremacy still rules, even if he’s wearing a dress!

What a load of rot! I'm not signing, but not because I believe male supremacy rules (or should rule).

Are you willing to say why you wouldn't sign, why you don't think the sex category should be based on biological sex (since scientifically there is only biological sex) anything else is the amorphous 'gender' thingy.

None of your business! It's not a police state, is it?

You wouldn't like my reply anyway!

Wow, aggressive or what!!!!!! That was a polite enquiry whether you would be willing to expand on your reply. That you respond in such a way speaks volumes!!!!! I now know to totally dismiss any reference of yours to family members who have 'scientific knowledge, expertise or whatever' as a total irrelevance, not to be given any weight at all.

Your choice!

It is absolutely no business of yours why I won't sign the petition. You might not like this, but not everybody supports your beliefs.

Signed

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Rosie51

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Mollygo

Rosie51

Signed. I do wonder why anybody who agrees with all the other protected characteristics in the EA wouldn't think the 'sex' characteristic should be defined according to sex. Gender is a protected category. Are they frightened if sex is properly defined and protected as in biology, women might actually retain some protections?

Exactly that Rosie51.
By not signing, they make it quite clear that for them, male supremacy still rules, even if he’s wearing a dress!

What a load of rot! I'm not signing, but not because I believe male supremacy rules (or should rule).

Are you willing to say why you wouldn't sign, why you don't think the sex category should be based on biological sex (since scientifically there is only biological sex) anything else is the amorphous 'gender' thingy.

None of your business! It's not a police state, is it?

You wouldn't like my reply anyway!

Wow, aggressive or what!!!!!! That was a polite enquiry whether you would be willing to expand on your reply. That you respond in such a way speaks volumes!!!!! I now know to totally dismiss any reference of yours to family members who have 'scientific knowledge, expertise or whatever' as a total irrelevance, not to be given any weight at all.

Rosie51

growstuff

Mollygo

Rosie51

Signed. I do wonder why anybody who agrees with all the other protected characteristics in the EA wouldn't think the 'sex' characteristic should be defined according to sex. Gender is a protected category. Are they frightened if sex is properly defined and protected as in biology, women might actually retain some protections?

Exactly that Rosie51.
By not signing, they make it quite clear that for them, male supremacy still rules, even if he’s wearing a dress!

What a load of rot! I'm not signing, but not because I believe male supremacy rules (or should rule).

Are you willing to say why you wouldn't sign, why you don't think the sex category should be based on biological sex (since scientifically there is only biological sex) anything else is the amorphous 'gender' thingy.

None of your business! It's not a police state, is it?

You wouldn't like my reply anyway!

FarNorth

A situation where a baby died, in part because a female person was designated 'male' in her medical notes.

metro.co.uk/2019/05/20/pregnant-transgender-mans-baby-died-because-nurse-didnt-realize-he-was-in-labor-9613972/

That is really sad, but therein lies the problem. If you say you are a man (AHF) then you can’t be pregnant.
Same as if you insist you are a woman, you can’t get inflammation of or problems with a penis or testicles.
At some time, you need to acknowledge the your birth sex. It’s your responsibility.
I’ve read enough posts telling me I’m wrong to say TW are male, not AHF, but sometimes there a reason for telling the truth-that you can’t change sex.

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Mollygo

Rosie51

Signed. I do wonder why anybody who agrees with all the other protected characteristics in the EA wouldn't think the 'sex' characteristic should be defined according to sex. Gender is a protected category. Are they frightened if sex is properly defined and protected as in biology, women might actually retain some protections?

Exactly that Rosie51.
By not signing, they make it quite clear that for them, male supremacy still rules, even if he’s wearing a dress!

What a load of rot! I'm not signing, but not because I believe male supremacy rules (or should rule).

Are you willing to say why you wouldn't sign, why you don't think the sex category should be based on biological sex (since scientifically there is only biological sex) anything else is the amorphous 'gender' thingy.

FarNorth

A situation where a baby died, in part because a female person was designated 'male' in her medical notes.

metro.co.uk/2019/05/20/pregnant-transgender-mans-baby-died-because-nurse-didnt-realize-he-was-in-labor-9613972/

This death was nothing to do with the patient being designated as a man. He had performed a pregnancy test and told staff he might be pregnant. The failure of staff to listen to him caused the death, not his designation. Staff performed a pregnancy test as well which is very odd if they considered he was a male. It's a clear case of a transgender person being mistreated but possibly not for the reason claimed.

Mollygo

Rosie51

Signed. I do wonder why anybody who agrees with all the other protected characteristics in the EA wouldn't think the 'sex' characteristic should be defined according to sex. Gender is a protected category. Are they frightened if sex is properly defined and protected as in biology, women might actually retain some protections?

Exactly that Rosie51.
By not signing, they make it quite clear that for them, male supremacy still rules, even if he’s wearing a dress!

What a load of rot! I'm not signing, but not because I believe male supremacy rules (or should rule).

Meant to quote DaisyAnne in my last post.

Thanks Mollygo sometimes they almost make you doubt yourself!

Preaching? If you say so. I wasn't but I think most preachers would consider my post a pathetic attempt 🤣🤣 I do hope you never express an opinion unless it's asked for, wouldn't want to cast you as a total hypocrite. And to think I've read threads where I've felt you should be supported, even if I've disagreed..... learned my lesson

Rosie51

Signed. I do wonder why anybody who agrees with all the other protected characteristics in the EA wouldn't think the 'sex' characteristic should be defined according to sex. Gender is a protected category. Are they frightened if sex is properly defined and protected as in biology, women might actually retain some protections?

Exactly that Rosie51.
By not signing, they make it quite clear that for them, male supremacy still rules, even if he’s wearing a dress!

Rosie51

Fleurpepper

Not at all. Who am I to decide who others want to be, and how they want to live.

But gender reassignment is a protected characteristic, which allows people to be who they want to be. Why would you want women (or men) to lose their biological sex based protected characteristic?

Stop preaching for heavens sake. The OP asked people to sign. Fleurpepper said she would not be signing and told you why. It is not your job to persuade her.

Had it been a discussion OP then I imagine Fleurpepper would not have posted. I know I would not have done,but it isn't. Please go and peddle your opinions where they are asked for.

Fleurpepper

Not at all. Who am I to decide who others want to be, and how they want to live.

Exactly.

Signed. I do wonder why anybody who agrees with all the other protected characteristics in the EA wouldn't think the 'sex' characteristic should be defined according to sex. Gender is a protected category. Are they frightened if sex is properly defined and protected as in biology, women might actually retain some protections?

No chance.

Signed but waiting for the verification email.

signed

A situation where a baby died, in part because a female person was designated 'male' in her medical notes.

metro.co.uk/2019/05/20/pregnant-transgender-mans-baby-died-because-nurse-didnt-realize-he-was-in-labor-9613972/

Signed. Please don't forget to click the link on the verification email, as your signature won't count unless you do.