Petition : *Update the Equality Act to make clear the characteristic “sex” is biological sex*

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Even without a crystal ball, the Equality Act does seem to include an unnecessarily confusing hotch-potch of references to 'gender' and 'sex'.

I believe that was the result of deliberate lobbying to take advantage of the fact that, at the time, those were believed to mean the same thing and, as you say Rosie51, that the Gender Recognition Act 2004, was expected to be used by a very tiny proportion of the UK population.

In case anyone doesn't know, this ruling is the result of the For Women Scotland challenge to the Scottish Government on the Gender Representation on Public Boards Act 2018.
Their previous court case ruled that the Scottish Government was wrong to say, in the GRPBA, that the categories of 'woman' and 'man' include everyone who chooses to identify into either of those.
However, the Scottish Government amended the Act to say that the categories of 'woman' and 'man' include those with a GRC as being their chosen sex.
Lady Haldane has now found in their favour.

The GRPBA was intended to increase the proportion of women on public boards.
It seemed to be something that would have very little effect on most people's lives, whether or not self-identified trans people or GRC holders were included in their chosen sex.

Because of this judgement, however, it has become a precedent for all other legislation which refers to one sex or the other.

Oh so the legislators should have foreseen that we'd be entering clown world where anyone without any professional assessment would be able to declare themselves the opposite sex to that which they were born? When the act was enacted GRC were thought to number just a few hundred, issued after a lengthy process.

sex-matters.org/posts/updates/scottish-court-rules-that-sex-is-about-paperwork-not-biology/

What?!! It really is essential to get the biological sex category recognised. 10, even 5 years ago I really would have laughed at suggestions these sorts of judgements would be made, it's all rather frightening, where will it end?

Lady Haldane has ruled that people with a GRC are in fact the sex they claim, in all circumstances, because the Equality Act did not mention biological sex at all.

So it's even more essential that the Equality Act is clarified if its intention of making single-sex provision possible, in some situations, is not to be completely annihilated.
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Does she think she can legislate for the whole UK? She refuses to listen to groups that have raised concerns, and rudely refers to the Special Rapporteur on violence against women as "that person from the UN" rather than use her name, because she raised concerns. What arrogance.

Listening to the radio this am, I hear that following concerns that people who have self ID and got a GRC in Scotland, NS says, Westminster won’t have the right to refuse to recognise them in England.

I hope this link works - to a montage of transwomen who have committed crimes typical of men.
If they are not real transwomen - how is anyone to know?
If transwomen are not men but are as dangerous to women as men are, statistically, there has to be another option that doesn't involve transwomen being automatically accepted as women.

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Signed.

This case is being discussed in the Scottish parliament thread, too.

Yet another paedophile 'transwoman' .
This one was accepted as a trusted friend of a young girl's parents and okay to be alone with her because of his 'gender identity'.

He groomed the 14 year old girl, raped her and got her pregnant.

Do I say all transwomen are like this? No.

Do I say all men are like this? No.

However, the girl's parents would not intentionally have left a young man alone with their daughter because they understand what could happen, but they did leave this young man alone with her because they were caught out by the demands to always instantly 'believe what someone tells you about themself '.
And he told them he was a woman.

Even if the general public is mired in confusion, it's essential that UK laws makes clear what is meant by the terms female, male, woman and man.
Please sign the petition linked in the OP and below.

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/623243

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11482001/Transgender-paedophile-25-identified-woman-groom-14-year-old-girl-got-pregnant.html

Signed

There's really no excuse for keeping quiet out of fear.
Do they really think everything will go along just fine if they say nothing?

It's not as if that's a far-fetched conclusion, either, as we already do have male sex offenders in women's prisons.

Yes NanKate

She tweeted a link to the article and wrote: 'Powerful piece. ''The loss of women's rights starts with looking the other way for an Eddie Izzard and ends with a society that doesn't flinch at placing a male sex offender in jail with women.'' Serious issues we must discuss.

Well that’s typical of those who discriminate against females.
But even worse if they’re afraid to support females because of the backlash against themselves.
And Mr Izzard?
If you want to know how much respect he has for the ‘women’ he purports to be when it suits him, then this behaviour says it all.
He might as well say,
“I’m male, I can do what I like and you can’t stop me.”
And his ‘permission’ to himself’ will be avidly greeted by the TRA, the trans fans and the TW who do actually mean harm.
I can hear some of those, who have the same disregard for females on GN, silently gloating already.

I read in the paper today that a Green Party politician has been suspended for complaining when Eddie Izzard used the Ladies. At a Labour Party event. I have no doubt Eddie is of no danger to women but what about those Transwomen who are predators.

We are living in a totally mad world that couldn’t have been dreamt of 20 years ago. I despair.

Indeed Namsnanny.

In case you missed it, Hetty - patients from age 3 are in the "Gender Multispeciality Service".

If anyone is concerned about the welfare of children they should be concerned FarNorth

Here's how it's going in USA Hetty58 and likely to be the same in UK.
Nothing to worry about, you think?

www.childrenshospital.org/programs/gender-multispecialty-service

Recently, the Scottish Government argued in court that the Equality Act already includes people with a GRC as being their desired sex.
If the judgement on that, due in a few months, agrees with them it is essential to clarify the Act as asked in this petition.

The UN special rapporteur on Violence against Women and Girls, Reem Alsalem, also thinks there are problems and is warning that the Scottish Government is making a mistake with its Gender Recognition Reform legislation as currently proposed.

"Reem Alsalem, the current special rapporteur on violence against women and girls, has condemned the Scottish government’s proposed reforms to the 2004 Gender Recognition Act. These present “potential risks to the safety of women” since they fail to “provide for any safeguarding measures to ensure that the procedure is not, as far as can be reasonably assured, abused by sexual predators and other perpetrators of violence”."

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d0021188-6b4d-11ed-b361-431d7dcc7c0e?shareToken=840f2b509e2aa8bc081ecafdca192880

Hetty58

FarNorth, and it's a huge problem for GN folk because?

I would have answered this, but H58 sounds so much like another poster that she/he already knows the answer.
1) Even if I’m wrong about the alias, H58 could have had the simple courtesy of reading the ample evidence of why females think harmful or discriminatory male, especially TW behaviour towards females is wrong.
2) Equally it’s a huge problem because those who endorse/ don’t condemn the behaviour above can’t see the damage it is doing to the majority of trans because people hear ‘transwomen’ and immediately think of the unacceptable behaviour.
H58, your posts imply IMO that you belong to group 2 above.

Hetty58

grannydarkhair, yes, he's just a writer - obviously. What interested me was the different examples of body, brain and genitalia being of different sexes.

Hugshelp, this is the same old thing, rehashed (yet again) about 'safe spaces' for women - and nothing has changed. They never existed, nobody checked.

That's like saying lets make rape, burglary etc legal because it happens anyway.
Let's not try because we'll fail.
Your response is also the same old and also illogical.

Absolutely Hugshelp, and I’d add it fundamentally matters that The Laws of the the land are rooted in Science and Rationality. Not in subjective, mood dependent feelings emotions or desires. A person can choose to believe they are a different gender but beliefs are not truths, they can believe they are a different sex but this is a blurring of fact and fiction. When (as they have) powerful sources become entrenched in postulating and promoting fallacy and illusion where exactly do you envision we are Moving on too Hetty 58.