Asylum seekers

If I remember correctly the late Norman Wisdom is revered in Albania.

All I know is Albania is a very poor country. Maybe they want to come here to work to help their families lives.

Maudi

Seems you think you are a nit 😁 according to your post. No I'm not going to explain it, it's blatantly obvious.

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Something that may appear obvious to you, is not to me or most others. Explain please - assuming you can.

Maudi

Seems you think you are a nit 😁 according to your post. No I'm not going to explain it, it's blatantly obvious.

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This strikes me as unnecessarily rude.

MaizieD

Well, they're not accepting student cards for a start. I have read that bus passes will be OK.

Because, of course, students cheat and lie and OAPs don't...

bylinetimes.com/2022/11/07/voter-id-its-far-worse-than-any-us-state/

I have a "do not engage" list Iam64. Just in my head, it's not pinned to the wall. 😂

Works wonders for my blood pressure.

09:28Iam64

Why because I don't agree with your left Agenda. Some posters are so used to the lefty echo chamber on here it's a shock when some don't agree with them it seems.

Seems to me you are the rude unpleasant poster as its you who are calling me names.

You’re a very rude unpleasant poster Maudi

growstuff

JaneJudge

The reason people on the Kent coast cannot afford housing is to do with people in London buying second homes

Or even first homes because people can't afford London prices and parts of Kent have become trendy.

Our commuter town (38 minutes direct train to the City) has definitely had its house prices pushed up by folks moving out of London.

New build 2 bed flats are going for around £300,000, rentals for 1/2 bedroom flats are in the region of £1,000.

Someone we know has just had their 3 bed semi valued £600,000.

It is extremely expensive to live in the S E, folks are still working from home and the local coffee shops, restaurants and takeaways are booming.

Seems you think you are a nit 😁 according to your post. No I'm not going to explain it, it's blatantly obvious.

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Go on Maudi, explain it to me. I’m nit at your genius level

12 May 2021Although Albania is not currently a part of the European Union, Albanian citizens can travel without a visa to all EU member states. This will not change in the future, EU officials have confirmed. ... Albanian nationals have been able to cross an external EU border using just a valid passport and stay for up to 90 days. copied

So if Albanians are allowed to travel to EU member states why are they paying illegal smuggler gangs to come to UK, you don't have to be a genius to work that one out.

Well, they're not accepting student cards for a start. I have read that bus passes will be OK.

Because, of course, students cheat and lie and OAPs don't...

welbeck

i wonder what kind of ID will be required to be produced in order to apply for the voter card...

Interesting question!

The bill was introduced into parliament by my MP, so maybe I'll ask her.

JaneJudge

The reason people on the Kent coast cannot afford housing is to do with people in London buying second homes

Or even first homes because people can't afford London prices and parts of Kent have become trendy.

Yes NotSpaghetti, that’s my experience, that the majority of people from Albania who go to other European countries, work hard and pay taxes.
Of course some Albanians will be crooks, just as there are crooks in every other nationality.

JaneJ is correct about the way house prices along the south coast have been inflated by second home ownership

Still, let’s not let reality get in the way of demonising an entire nation, rather than accept 12 years of Tory misrule has led us to a place where our Home Secretary presents as a heartless, dishonest incompetent

The reason people on the Kent coast cannot afford housing is to do with people in London buying second homes

There were quite a lot of Albanian people in southern Italy pre-pandemic. I haven't been back since but they were working in the fields/olive groves and apparently construction sites.

Thanks LondonMzFitz for your first hand experience. Greece has a large community of Albanian workers, keeping tourism and agriculture well staffed. Many Albanian families have settled, some work 7 days a week,long hours throughout the season, returning to Albania for the winter.

Interesting LondonMzFitz

maddyone

When we were on holiday in Montenegro a few years ago, the car hire company we rented our car from warned us not to go into Albania with the car. Apparently it was likely have parts stolen from it, or the whole car stolen. You can all make of that what you will. We didn’t go into Albania for that reason.
Recently we were on holiday in Corfu. You can see Albania from Corfu, it’s very near. There were boat excursions to Albania and then you get a coach to an important historical site, or you could just stay in the village where you arrived. We would have liked to have gone and visited the historical site (Roman I think but could have been Greek) but it was a bit late in the season and we couldn’t fit it in as not as many excursions were going. Another time maybe.

I'm late to this thread, but wanted to add ...
About 25 years ago a bunch of friends and I had a weekend in Blackpool. Mini bus in the car park had the hubcaps stolen.. And how many catalytic converters have been stolen from cars in driveways (I used to live in London, it was a regular occurrence). Not just an Albanian problem.

I had a 5 day break in Albania in 2019, organised by a Bulgarian friend who likes to offer trips off the beaten track. We had 2 days in Tirana, the Capital, with a local guide. So much history! But, he said, there's a lot of corruption in local government. The other 3 days we were in Durres, a seaside resort (with a Roman amphitheatre). Fabulous hotel, average food, lots of history again. Trip to Berat, Ottoman and Byzantine attractions. Saw a few beggars, although we certainly weren't on a tourist area, children in tattered clothes, I believe money is very tight for the average person. And earthquakes - a week before we arrived, and a very severe one not long after, buildings reduced to rubble. Indeed, the Roman amphitheatre at Durres was only found when there was an earthquake and parts were brought to the surface. It could really do with a tourist influx - the beach we were on was lovely. Unfortunately stray dogs are a problem, and are taken and poisoned. I witnessed someone going to pick up a stone to throw at a passing dog - my instinctive scream on seeing that stopped them.

Pretty country, Government corruption, few jobs, little in the way of money for "fun"; our guide (in his mid-50's) told us neither of his parents could read or write; 1945 Census says over 81% of the Country were illiterate.

Urmstongran

I read yesterday that in parts of Kent there aren’t enough school places now for Y7 and Y9 local children as migrants need them and the local kids can’t get their first choice schools and some are being bussed by their council to schools 20 miles away. Their families are furious.

I would be furious too - with the government failing to process the cases so that the people granted asylum (70% of these cases are valid) can move on.

GrannyGravy13

HousePlantQueen

varian

Where did you read that UG?

Probably the Daily Express.

It’s headlining in many local Kent Newspapers and Kentonline

I am sure there is a shortage of school places, housing, GP appts etc., in those towns which are housing refugees and asylum seekers, but only a fool would believe that taking a few asylum seekers and refugees out of their miserable hotel rooms will magic up good quality housing, education and health care for everyone else. 40,000 people are waiting to be processed (I hate that word), if they all suddenly left, went back to where they came from, do you seriously believe that the people living on the Kent coast would then have decent affordable housing? A new school? Maybe even one of the 40 new hospitals? Give me a break

HousePlantQueen

varian

Where did you read that UG?

Probably the Daily Express.

It’s headlining in many local Kent Newspapers and Kentonline

Kent does bear the greatest load simply because this is where the small boats and previously the lorries arrive from the continent. As far as I know Kent have taken responsibility fir all the under 18s ( and their families) as well as the majority of the rest. This means there is a great shortage of school places in certain areas.
If the rest of the country took their share it would improve the conditions of these people, the majority of whom have lost everything because the cost of keeping so many people by one council is crippling and while in no way condoning it, results in the scandal of Manston.