Northern Ireland solutions

MaisieD It never occurred to me. I was probably more concerned about leaving the EU.

Maybe I'm being totally stupid, but I thought the EU checks could be done inside the IR and people could just keep moving freely between north and south.Where possible goods from Britain by sea could go straight to Dublin port.

nadateturbe

You may be right.
To be honest a border issue didn't occur to me. I thought we would simply leave and there would be an EU border. I didn't see it as a problem. I just made sure I got my Irish passport.

I don't understand why you didn't think a border would be a problem, nadateturbe. A land border would have violated the GFA (which, it seems as though this new requirement for non EU citizens might). And the border in the Irish Sea is causing the DUP grief.

I still can't see a solution.

You may be right.
To be honest a border issue didn't occur to me. I thought we would simply leave and there would be an EU border. I didn't see it as a problem. I just made sure I got my Irish passport.

Oh and so do I !

But how can one solve the NI Protocol and Brexit which requires a border between any non EU country and the EU?

I agree Kircubbin we are where we are now.

nadateturbe

Fleurpepper I have been thinking about your last post, and I thought I should make it clear that yes I agree, there were horrible murders on both sides which were completely unjustifiable.
Not committed by unionists or republicans but by paramilitary groups on both "sides".

I don't have any friends who think they were justified in any way.

However it doesn't mean that concerns about the Protocol by unionists should not be addressed.

But we will find out what people think in the election.

Thanks- it is a discussion, and this is the way to do it.

Arlene and the Unionists knew what the Agreement would mean as far as the Protocol is concerned. They KNEW, without any doubt, that there would have to be a border somewhere. And they took the bribe, to keep quiet. So concerns, yes, I get it. But they KNEW exactly what the Deal would mean.

This going to be interesting

From 2025 the UK Borders and Registration Act will require all non EU citizens to have to submit boimetric and fingerprint data crossing from Ireland to NI.

At the non existent border (with hundreds of crossing points) between the two countries, no doubt...

www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/politics/northern-irish-politicians-slam-facial-and-fingerprint-data-requirement-for-non-irish-eu-citizens-crossing-border-42137635.html

I wonder did he mean 70 but history is not my strong point.

I have just made the mistake of commenting on another board to be met with replies about things that happened 700 years ago. With this mindset NI will never be solved.

That's very sad Caleo, but very common. I'm surprised you stayed.

My husband, baby and I moved to Belfast in the depths of winter with the three of us and most of our worldly goods packed into a Morris Minor Traveller. We Scots RAF family had little knowledge of religion or Irish politics, and by accident unawares we found a B and B in a Catholic district.

The elderly landlady was kind to us and made us comfortable. But in the morning a strange young girl arrived at her house and her hostile attitude sort of forced the nice landlady apologetically to expel us from her house.

Our little family soon found another place to stay, and it was not until I had been in Belfast for some time I understood what probably had happened.

Fleurpepper I have been thinking about your last post, and I thought I should make it clear that yes I agree, there were horrible murders on both sides which were completely unjustifiable.
Not committed by unionists or republicans but by paramilitary groups on both "sides".

I don't have any friends who think they were justified in any way.

However it doesn't mean that concerns about the Protocol by unionists should not be addressed.

But we will find out what people think in the election.

Our best friend is a Republican. Doesn't support IRA.
Why would unionists willingly belong to a country led by a party that supports the IRA'S campaign, and won't condemn what they did. Surely its no better than Russia killing Ukrainian citizens
You really don't understand.

And I am talking about both sides. The Unionists have also killed many, and innocents too. BOTH sides.

Totally agree with your second statement. But the Unionists will nto agree, not for 2 many more generations. Indoctrination and hate is peddled right here, right now.

they refuse to condemn the murder of innocent civilians.
Really?
I am talking about SF.

Reunification needs to happen (Ireland should never have been divided) but unionists who are British citizens should be given resettlement help if they wish to settle in GB.

I don’t think there is a solution to the Northern Ireland situation. Perhaps give it back and let reunification take place.

nadateturbe

I've lived here all my life and I know what happened Fleurpepper. I condemn all violence.
Some people can't even condemn murder of innocent civilians. (If you listen to the link).

I have never lived there. But I have friends and relatives on both sides. And on both sides they refuse to condemn the murder of innocent civilians.

Republicans and Unionists both gained the same number of seats in the last General election. Alliance are neither pro or against.

I've lived here all my life and I know what happened Fleurpepper. I condemn all violence.
Some people can't even condemn murder of innocent civilians. (If you listen to the link).

You do realise this was not just one way?

Caleo"rowdies"?
Why would unionists want to be part of a Republic that isn't sorry for horrible murders of innocent citizens? Did you even listen to the video?

Before partition in 1921 Irish Protestants felt themselves to be Irish.

After partition the rowdies among Ulster Protestants got a legitimate platform for divisive and militant behaviour.

And two days before the 35th anniversary of the Enniskillen massacre.
We need to move forward, yes, but honouring men who did this. A bit much.

This won't do much to help. It's a very short video.

m.independent.ie/videos/mary-lou-mcdonald-applauds-speech-glorifying-pira-42124984.html