Northern Ireland solutions

Perhaps not- Perhaps partly a knock on effect. When there is no surplus in one place due to disease, there is none to export.
Friends in the USA said they had a shortage lately, because they import a lot from Eastern Europe, where bird flu is raging.

But yes, other factors too. Often it is the combination of several factors that create a real shortage.

Well it's not bird flu.

I do think you know the answer.

Fleurpepper

Sadly bird flu has struck and there is a real shortage of chickens and poultry everywhere.

Fleurpepper my 2 children who live at opposite ends of England say there is no shortage. We have no chicken and very little turkey in the shops here in NI. So why aren't we getting delivery from GB?

Exactly Varian, makes NO sense at all.

I struggle to get my head round the logic of the DUP's position.

They campaigned for brexit - meaning the UK, including NI, would be out of the EU, whilst the Irish Republic remained in the EU.

This meant that there would have to be a border somewhere.

The Good Friday Agreement, which they had signed up to, stipulated that there could never be a border on the island of Ireland.

Where did they think that the border would be, if not in the Irish Sea, between NI and GB?

Johnson lied about the consequences of the protocol but the DUP will find any excuse not to have a Sinn Fein First Minister so I can't see the impasse being resolved by renegotiating the protocol.

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Quote from financial Times.
"Varadkar, Ireland’s new prime minister, has admitted that Northern Ireland’s post-Brexit trading arrangements are “too strict”, fuelling hopes of a deal between the UK and the EU to end the dispute over the issue. He said a protocol in the UK’s Brexit agreement, which created a trade barrier between Great Britain and Northern Ireland, had made pro-UK unionists in the region feel less British and that a compromise was possible."

Could have been said sooner!

Agree Oreo. Hope they sort it soon!

Read recently that Leo Varadkar, the teashop as my DP always wrongly calls him, has said mistakes were made by both sides with the Brexit arrangements and that the EU was probably too strict in it’s interpretations of the rules.That leads me to think there will be some give and take to resolve issues.
Fingers crossed.

nadateturbe

Of course! British citizens could enter EU freely. Didn't think of that. 🙄

We need to rejoin!

This is not the issue. The issue if that the UK has chosen to do away with EU regulations on food and safety, feeds, additives, antibiotics, husbandry, etc. That means that any foodstuff coming from mainland UK could find its way into EU foodchains. The EU is still very concerned ever since Mad Cow disease, which happened when the UK had same jurisdiction. BTW UK citizens are still not allowed to give blood in EU countries.

The best hope for Northern Ireland is for tribal voters who have mixed their politics and "religion" (ie nominal religion - not all are actually religous) to see sense and support the non-sectarian Alliance Party.

"Alliance was founded in 1970 with the objective of healing the bitter divisions in our community. We believe in a shared society, free from intimidation, discrimination and fear, where everyone is safe, can play their part and is treated fairly and with respect. We believe in a united community for Northern Ireland."

www.allianceparty.org/our_vision?locale=en

Perhaps I was misinformed. I must check.

Sadly bird flu has struck and there is a real shortage of chickens and poultry everywhere.

Just an update on effect of Protocol. In M&S today could not see cooked half chickens or breasts which we love. Asked, and was told that because of the Protocol it is difficult to get from England so they aren't selling them now.
Tried Sainsburys, none there either
Small problem but important to many.

I try to be.

nadateturbe

It's not sarcastic. I couldn't believe I hadn't thought it through properly.

Thank you for being honest.

kircubbin2000

nadateturbe

I agree Kircubbin we are where we are now.

They really are 2 different tribes, a bit like India and Pakistan.

It's true, to an extent. Working class estates are still mostly one religion or t'other. Frightening.

Would be better not to have left the EU.

Good luck to negotiators!

It's not sarcastic. I couldn't believe I hadn't thought it through properly.

nadateturbe

Of course! British citizens could enter EU freely. Didn't think of that. 🙄

We need to rejoin!

Is your post sarchastic, or your opinion.

Free movement has got to go both ways. You are surely not saying that British people should have free movement, but EU not? Or that British goods should have no checks, and do not need to adhere to accepted EU standards, but not t'other way round?

nadateturbe

I agree Kircubbin we are where we are now.

They really are 2 different tribes, a bit like India and Pakistan.

Of course! British citizens could enter EU freely. Didn't think of that. 🙄

We need to rejoin!

nadateturbe

Maybe I'm being totally stupid, but I thought the EU checks could be done inside the IR and people could just keep moving freely between north and south.Where possible goods from Britain by sea could go straight to Dublin port.

How could it be. It would mean that British people from all over UK, and goods, including goods which no longer abide by EU standards, could move freely to NI and then freely to Ireland, and then freely to EU? Makes no sense.

nadateturbe

Maybe I'm being totally stupid, but I thought the EU checks could be done inside the IR and people could just keep moving freely between north and south.Where possible goods from Britain by sea could go straight to Dublin port.

Not surprised you were not sure about the border. Johnson lied openly about this, and promised people of NI that there would be no checks and no border, and no paperwork.

But I would not have expected you to know- but I did expect the negotiatiors to know, and the DUP, and SF- and they all KNEW that there would have to be a border somewhere.

I know many people who got their Irish passports as they voted to Remain, and I just can't blame them at all- I would have done the same.

But I also know some who voted for Brexit, which they knew would deprive all British people of Free movement, knowing full well that they themselves, could avoid losing the same. And this is just hypocritical in the extreme and so so wrong.