NHS 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 ... This is getting ridiculous now. Isn’t it?

So does the OP suggest a full age and anatomical examination before asking the questions on the form? It’s easier to ask the questions and move on isn’t it? Can’t see what the fuss is about.

Many of us are solution orientated Shelflife and see people with a need and find ways to help.

Sadly some are problem orientated and enjoy making life difficult for everyone else for absolutely no reason except seeing themselves as more special and important than people who shoes they would frown upon

I understand why many people think the world has gone mad re. trans issues. However how would those people feel if their DD or GD identified as male - looked like a boy , wore boys clothes and had a boy's name? - and may also be pregnant! An x ray would be dangerous. I think we all need to stop looking at this issue from the point of view of those of us who are not trans. Instead let's put emphasis on those people who are struggling with gender identity. It is if no value assuming these issues are not there , they are ! and I believe in time ( a long time!) we will all accept it with empathy. Those of us who reject the the transgender issue would feel very differently indeed if they had someone they love in that position.

Any chance we could all read the article and understand what it says?

That there are posters going up in NHS Tayside Radiology departments. That some Daily Mail person has invented a 12 year old boy with cancer. That some "experts" think the poster isn't clear enough.

Another one for my "people like to believe not-quite-truths" file.

www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11390103/12-year-old-BOYS-asked-PREGNANT-bizarre-NHS-poster-says.html

Wyllow3 today @21:15
I think you could be right with your impression that older people tend to obsess more and discuss trans etc more, just based on reading GN.
But out in the real world there are real young people as well as middle aged and older people discussing these issue too. They just don’t all have either the time or the inclination to write endless posts.

It’s madness isn’t it? Just when we think we’ve heard it all, up pops more nonsense.
A twelve year old boy. Oh yes, better ask him if he’s pregnant to be on the safe side.

Definitely one to be filed under ‘you couldn’t make it up’
The file is growing almost by the day.

Urmstongran

Just not 12 year old boys JaneJudge in the oncology department waiting for their cancer radiation. That’s the point.

I’m on holiday BTW and haven’t seen the other 3 trans threads VioketSky. It happens. This topic caught my eye at teatime which is why I brought it up. If people aren’t interested they’ll pass by.

Yes but no disagreement

Septimia

Not only is it part of the world going mad (although I expect they're covering their backs just in case they miss someone who is pregnant) but the thing that struck me is that they can't even spell "foetus" !

*Fetus" and "foetus" are both acceptable.

www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/foetus

Urmstongran

Just not 12 year old boys JaneJudge in the oncology department waiting for their cancer radiation. That’s the point.

I’m on holiday BTW and haven’t seen the other 3 trans threads VioketSky. It happens. This topic caught my eye at teatime which is why I brought it up. If people aren’t interested they’ll pass by.

Where does the poster say anything about an oncology department?

The poster mentions ionising radiation, which is what's used in normal X rays.

I don't think this is a trans thread.

I think it's about a different obsession entirely. 🙄

I dont understand. We have people using food banks, not able to clothe there families, we have refugees called "invaders" we have cuts ahead in the NHS and the Care system is on its knees, we have a rise - if we are to get into gender issues - of attacks on women by men - we have suicidal young people unable to see a practitioner to help them, we have people off ur age unable to heat their homes - yet this obsession continues.

Personally my choice will be just not to join in anymore - probably best to do this - and yes lets have a trans thread, but one is enough, given other matters that surely are of greater concern as we go into this tough winter.

Can you imagine of there were different forms for every age group, gender or whatever

Poor nurses would be run ragged looking for a Form 27/e

Just write NA and don't worry about it

Not only is it part of the world going mad (although I expect they're covering their backs just in case they miss someone who is pregnant) but the thing that struck me is that they can't even spell "foetus" !

Just not 12 year old boys JaneJudge in the oncology department waiting for their cancer radiation. That’s the point.

I’m on holiday BTW and haven’t seen the other 3 trans threads VioketSky. It happens. This topic caught my eye at teatime which is why I brought it up. If people aren’t interested they’ll pass by.

I feel miffed, I went for an X Ray a few weeks ago and nobody asked me if I was pregnant.

4 threads about trans issues in 4 days has to be a new record?

Why don't you guys just start one and carry that on?

they ask everyone who goes for an x-ray if they are pregnant tbh

I just think what a daft country we have become!

MissAdventure

I don't think there is anything approaching an obsession on here about these issues.

Compare them to a thread about... hmmm... let's see...

The royal family slagging off Meghan and there is no obsession.

As to the "why does it affect you argument, well, it probably will, somewhere down the line.

There is certainly an obsession on GN about Brexit.

On the face of it, this Scottish hospital is going over the top with this poster on the wall, but is no doubt worried it may be sued if it doesn’t make things clear.

That’s what I thought Growstuff.

25Avalon

Can a 12 year old have radiography without consent from his/her guardian?

I don't think so, apart from an emergency.

It wouldn't just be radiotherapy, but any form of radiation, including X rays.

Can a 12 year old have radiography without consent from his/her guardian?

volver

^The reply was no she hadn't read anything on the subject and a disbelief that a 'load of old grannies' in England would be so obsessed^

Excuse me - I'm not a granny and I'm not in England. 😂😂. But I do think there is a certain degree of obsession going on here...

As for saving money in the NHS - we have colour photocopiers and everything up here now. 😜

Goodness me! Who'd have thought it?

Urmstongran It would cost the NHS more to produce several different personalised questionnaires, in addition to the extra storage required. So what would happen if a patient were given the wrong questionnaire and had questions omitted because the receptionist didn't realise that a patient belonged to a particular group?

It's much easier and cheaper to stick a sign on the wall, so the hospital can say "well, we told you".

M0nica

I am 79. I went for a DEXA scan recently and was asked if I thought I was pregnant. I was sorely tempted to say 'possibly'.
Nothing to do with trans issues.

Same here! Over the last few months, I've had a DEXA scan, an echocardiogram, three mammograms, numerous ultrasounds, three MRIs, five sessions of radiotherapy and I've been asked if I was pregnant each time.

The reply was no she hadn't read anything on the subject and a disbelief that a 'load of old grannies' in England would be so obsessed

Excuse me - I'm not a granny and I'm not in England. 😂😂. But I do think there is a certain degree of obsession going on here...

As for saving money in the NHS - we have colour photocopiers and everything up here now. 😜