Will the corruption ever end? Gavin Williamson resigns

Whitewavemark2

“Gavin Williamson will pick up £16,876 in severance pay for lasting exactly TWO weeks in government (plus £2,589 in gross pay).

As it's the third time he's been sacked/ forced to quit govt, presumably he's done quite nicely out of taxpayer.”

He has said he won't take it! Good!

Has there ever been a time when we hold our politicians in such low regard?

PM is obviously a bad judge of character. Williamson is a nasty piece of work and manages to get rewarded with a knighthood for being a failure BUT Remember Williamson is the holder of many many secrets concerning the corrupt BJ. Tories are doing well shooting themselves in the foot.

No, he isn't much good but he's not natural PMQ material and I have sympathy for him.
Compared to so many in his party he seems a decent man at heart and is out of his depth not waving but drowning. In these awful appointments he's obvs trying to bring together both sides of his warring party and to keep trouble-makers inside the tent. That was too ambitions and has failed, but not an unreasonable aim given that his two predecessors had quite rightly been slated for cronyism.
But how do we get from here to a GE?

PMQs

Starmer wiped the floor with Sunak - again.

Sunak just isn’t any good is he?

MaizieD

Katie59

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

Nice of you to pick me up on something I didn't say, Katie59.

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Katie59

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

Nice of you to pick me up on something I didn't say, Katie59.

Tizliz

Ladyleftfieldlover

We have an actual Guardian delivered each day. At the weekend we have the i newspaper and the Observer. But I read the Daily Mail on line as well as CNN, Fox News and the Sydney Morning Herald. I assume I get an assortment of opinions. For television news we watch BBC, Sky and Aljesera (sp).

I read Gransnet, get every side of the argument

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Katie59

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

Of course not, that wasn’t what was said, but you need to read a selection of papers from all political persuasions to get a rounded picture.

Ladyleftfieldlover

We have an actual Guardian delivered each day. At the weekend we have the i newspaper and the Observer. But I read the Daily Mail on line as well as CNN, Fox News and the Sydney Morning Herald. I assume I get an assortment of opinions. For television news we watch BBC, Sky and Aljesera (sp).

I read Gransnet, get every side of the argument

We have an actual Guardian delivered each day. At the weekend we have the i newspaper and the Observer. But I read the Daily Mail on line as well as CNN, Fox News and the Sydney Morning Herald. I assume I get an assortment of opinions. For television news we watch BBC, Sky and Aljesera (sp).

Maisie

“On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?”

You dont really believe the Guardian is unbiased do you?.

Indeed Fanny. Patel seems strangely quiet at the moment.

The Liberal Democrats are asking for Williamsons knighthood to be removed

‘Slit their throat’ is just so despicable, and frankly, really disturbing.

If someone said that to me, I would be quite scared, and really question their mental state.

It comes from a very dark and cruel place.

Like many in the current and previous cabinets, they know that they are out of their depth.
They spiral out of control and get vicious.
Patel was of a similar persuasion

Love "Dung Beetle".

the Daily Mail hath spoken:

"A weedy bloke who thinks he's hard': Tory MPs turn on Sir Gavin Williamson as he is forced to quit Cabinet over slew of bullying claims including allegations he told officials to 'slit their throat'

Casdon

Urmstongran

I can assure you MaizieD there are many thought provoking and even critical opinions of the government put forward regularly in the Telegraph.

As for the cost - we each prioritise our needs and likes with what disposable income we have. For instance I don’t spend money on a garden, crafting or baking. To each their own.
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On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?

You don't have to subscribe to the Guardian to read it (though they do ask you for a fiver from time to time..). It becomes really expensive to shell out for long term subscriptions to newspapers just so as to be able to read the odd article. I know that some offer very cheap limited period 'trials' but that doesn't help over the course of a year. Even the 'free' article limited offers are a pain if you're using more than one device and aren't well enough organised to put the logins and passwords on all devices. It's all very clunky...

Added to that we have respected commentators wanting you to 'subscribe' to their substack or patreon blogs. Getting any sort of 'political experience' can end up being pretty expensive. And time consuming if you feel you have to read everything you've subscribed to in order to get your moneys worth...

It would be good if newspapers and blog sites just had a one off charge for accessing an article (say £1 or £1.50) with no logins/passwords attached...

Urmstongran

I can assure you MaizieD there are many thought provoking and even critical opinions of the government put forward regularly in the Telegraph.

As for the cost - we each prioritise our needs and likes with what disposable income we have. For instance I don’t spend money on a garden, crafting or baking. To each their own.
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On that basis Urmstongran, do you subscribe to the Guardian and the Independent too so you get a fully rounded political experience?

I can assure you MaizieD there are many thought provoking and even critical opinions of the government put forward regularly in the Telegraph.

As for the cost - we each prioritise our needs and likes with what disposable income we have. For instance I don’t spend money on a garden, crafting or baking. To each their own.
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Urmstongran

Actually Iam64 it’s good to illustrate that the Telegraph also has unbiased columnists. Some people call it the ‘Torygraph’ and dismiss it out of hand (without reading it!).

I liked it when someone likened Williamson to the hapless Private Frank Pike (Don’t tell ‘em Pike!) from the Home Guard in the tv series ‘Dad’s Army’.
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Sorry, Ug, but I really couldn't afford to pay for pages and pages of right wing dross in the hopes of reading the occasional 'unbiased' columnist.

Well done Anne Milton for your honest Channel 4 News interview about Williamson. A great MP ditched by Johnson for her principled stand over his Brexit mess up.

To add - that links imo to Williamson ‘allegedly’ telling a whip who was handing money to an MP with financial problems to make sure the MP knew that meant Williamson ‘now owns him’

The current government has a bullying/corruption problem. We need rid

The suggestion I’ve read is that Johnson appreciated Williamson keeping silent about Johnson’s private life

what was he knighted for burying the bodies, metaphorically speaking 😉

Yosser 😡

Bloody autocorrect, spoiling my jokes