If Scotland is so wee,,poor and stupid ,why DO WM aka the ENGLISH parliament want so desperately to hold onto us

Dinahmo

Two things that are very good about Scotland (Shouting)
WHISKY and CHARLES RENNIE MAKINTOSH

Please don't ask "who is he?"

I have some of his mugs

MaizieD

^Angus Steak Houses at least! they sound vaguely Scottish,^

Have you not heard of Aberdeen Angus beef, TerriBull?

For shame. and you with a bull in your name, too...

Oh dear I forgot about the preceding Aberdeen, well that's conclusive then, definitely Scottish, as you say Maizie, as a bull, well more of a cow really, I should have known that

Well that's got me wondering now, does Scottish fare around the globe extend to the mighty beefy conglomerate that is McDonalds,? I do believe there was talk of a launch of the McHaggis burger, possibly in deference to the Scottish roots of the hallowed golden arches.

They gave us a vote?

Sorry, I've made a commitment to try not to be sarcastic any more...

They didn't desperately want to hang on to you they gave you a vote and the majority declined. Many English people would like their own separate Parliament.
On a more personal level in the last 100 years our family have comprised of English, Welsh, Scottish and Irish people and we have now added a European and an Asian person to the mix, surely that is one of the problems we are all mixed up in every sense. Members of the family still live in all corners of the Union.

There's another thing. I've just looked it up and I'd never realised just how far north Culloden is.

MaizieD

^she expressed her surprise that anyone English could do such good work.^

Well, Dinahmo, I can only pinch volver's expressive phrase. Cheeky besom.

🤣

MaizieD

^That would have come as a surprise to my ancestors, whose clan was fiercely anti-Jacobite,/

Well, that's something I didn't know about the Scottish. Why were they anti-Jacobite, Bodach? Were they staunch Protestants?
I've always thought that the Scottish support for the exiled Stuarts was strange in view of their strong Protestantism. Was it overridden by loyalty to the Stuart clan (the rightful heirs etc.)?

My father's family were probably Jacobites, their surname is on one of the stones at Culloden and some of the family lived in the town of Culloden at the time. Many (most?) of the Highland clans were Catholic. My mother's family were from Aberdeenshire which was Hanoverian.

I'm not religious or a supporter of hereditary monachies, so I suspect I would have been on my mother's side. 🙂🙂🙂

Who knows?

she expressed her surprise that anyone English could do such good work.

Well, Dinahmo, I can only pinch volver's expressive phrase. Cheeky besom.

^That would have come as a surprise to my ancestors, whose clan was fiercely anti-Jacobite,/

Well, that's something I didn't know about the Scottish. Why were they anti-Jacobite, Bodach? Were they staunch Protestants?
I've always thought that the Scottish support for the exiled Stuarts was strange in view of their strong Protestantism. Was it overridden by loyalty to the Stuart clan (the rightful heirs etc.)?

kittylester

Ooooh, I love The Hill House, dinahmo.

It's beautiful.

A few small anecdotes:

We visited the School of Art in 1970. We'd arranged our visit and were shown a store room with plan chests containing his drawings and water colours and piled high with furniture.

During WW1 He spent some time in Suffolk, at Walberswick. The locals didn't recognise a Scottish accent and thought he was German and so he was arrested.

One of our French friends comes from Collioure and we were telling her about him staying there and painting. We showed her a book of his watercolours and she expressed her surprise that anyone English could do such good work. We did put her right - that he was a Scot.

Ooooh, I love The Hill House, dinahmo.

Two things that are very good about Scotland (Shouting)
WHISKY and CHARLES RENNIE MAKINTOSH

Please don't ask "who is he?"

It's very unfair and quite mistaken to link lack of knowledge of Scottish history with SNP supporters, and twists what I said. Some SNP supporters get it wrong, so do some people who aren't SNP supporters.

I was making the point that not everybody knows as much about Scotland as others, for perfectly valid reasons. You're trying to link SNP support with a lack of knowledge of historical fact.

Very transparent tactic, if I may say so. No Scot I know thinks the "other side" at Culloden were the English.

MaizieD, yes we have. It was absolutely fascinating; the Romans were so clever too!

volver

This is not getting at anyone, honestly. I sometimes get surprised by how much people don't know about Scotland. No criticism intended, but it does explain what sometimes people get the wrong idea about us!

Caledonia's been everything I've ever had

(Dougie Maclean)

I agree with you, volver. I can't speak for the English, but I'm often surprised by how much many Scots don't know about Scotland - and its history in particular. Many of them seem to take that appalling film 'Braveheart' (an affront to the memory of that good man Wallace) as gospel. For example, most of my SNP-supporting acquaintances still think that the various Jacobite uprisings were purely England vs Scotland affairs. That would have come as a surprise to my ancestors, whose clan was fiercely anti-Jacobite, and who fought on the Government side in every battle from Killiecrankie to Culloden. Such ignorance also manifests itself in the SNP-facilitated perpetuation of such urban myths as the evergreen "English Tanks in George Square, Sent by Churchill to Murder Scots Workers" story, which reared its ugly head in GN not so long ago. Sometimes I despair of my countrymen and women...

icanhandthemback

*MaizieD*, Bath is indeed a beautiful city. My son is studying there and we love any excuse for a visit.

Have you been round the Roman baths and seen the source spring for the famous waters? Except that 'spring' is a bit of a misnomer. All that water gushing out as it has done for probably thousands of years. Awe inspiring...

Angus Steak Houses at least! they sound vaguely Scottish,

Have you not heard of Aberdeen Angus beef, TerriBull?

For shame. and you with a bull in your name, too...

With salt and vinegar.
And a dry cider!

Callistemon21

HousePlantQueen

JaneJudge

Tio Pepe with a bag of chips...now you are talking

I always thought you had class JaneJudge. Now I have confirmation

Do you mean chip chips or crisps, JaneJudge?

chippy chips

I haven't even opened my baileys

Or could it be that the person who started them is called Angus?

Angus Steak Houses - still going, I believe.

Are they called Angus Steak Houses because they are Scottish or because they serve Angus Steaks?

Somehow or other I don't think these observations about retro eating and drinking establishments of the '70s are what the OP had in mind when she said "answers on a postcard" This thread has meandered to such an extent it's now gone completely off piste, or even off pissed! depending on how many Baileys are being downed. Berni Inns I mean how is that in keeping with a Scottish theme. Angus Steak Houses at least! they sound vaguely Scottish, I think they may even have had tartan carpets on the floor, on the other hand they might have just been swirly, can't be sure dependent on the amount of Baileys imbibed at the time.

MaizieD, Bath is indeed a beautiful city. My son is studying there and we love any excuse for a visit.

The Romans were here too, in what is now Wales 🙂
We've got baths, a fortress, an amphitheatre