Meghan Markle Faced 'Disgusting and Very Real' Threats in the U.K., Former Counterterrorism Head Says

i think we are in the presence of racism and real hatred
( play ghoulish music) be afraid, be very afraid 🙀🫣

For someone who wanted PRIVACY she certainly seems to be going the right way !!!! She needs to keep quiet and just go away ...we are NOT interested in what she thinks or has to say ....just let her have her desired 'PRIVACY'............

BTW Volver you can reply to me anyway you want without the fear of being reported.

MerylStreep

katy1950

The retired police officer had a book due out

He also claims the reason he didn’t get the top honchos job in the NCA was because of his ethnic origins.

Basu isn’t the first senior police officer to believe he could have been even more successful in his career had he been white. He won’t be the last either. I often feel I’m not black and white enough in my consideration of race, oppression, empire, slavery. I’ve been known to reflect on the average age of Mill workers death in Manchester at 19, wondering if my ancestors had it nearly as grim as those picking the cotton they spun. Then I remember, my lot had freedom of choice, not great freedom of choice but they could walk, go back to vanishing agricultural work. Slaves had no choices. Then I look at the current threads with racism as themes and despair

Fleur, is that you pepper?

MerylStreep

^i think we are in the presence of racism and real hatred^
( play ghoulish music) be afraid, be very afraid 🙀🫣

Oh but I am afraid in a way

A woman who doesn't fit the stereotype of looking "British" is patronised and badgered by a privileged old woman in a position of power.

A social media site aimed at older adults demonises the woman and spreads lies unproven allegations about her - she was wearing a wire, she planned it all, she was really after Camilla, Meghan made it happen.

She has something to hide, why didn't she behave the way she should have, surely she's the racist. Why was she wearing leopard print?

So a whole section of society are willing to believe a whole pack of lies because it fits their preconceptions and contributes to a fear of the "other".

If you're not afraid, you either don't understand the issue or you're part of the problem.

Iam64

MerylStreep

katy1950

The retired police officer had a book due out

He also claims the reason he didn’t get the top honchos job in the NCA was because of his ethnic origins.

Basu isn’t the first senior police officer to believe he could have been even more successful in his career had he been white. He won’t be the last either. I often feel I’m not black and white enough in my consideration of race, oppression, empire, slavery. I’ve been known to reflect on the average age of Mill workers death in Manchester at 19, wondering if my ancestors had it nearly as grim as those picking the cotton they spun. Then I remember, my lot had freedom of choice, not great freedom of choice but they could walk, go back to vanishing agricultural work. Slaves had no choices. Then I look at the current threads with racism as themes and despair

Fleur, is that you pepper?

Basu has spoken out against institutional racism. His forthright opinions almost certainly did affect his career. If he'd gone down the route people such as Badenoch and Braverman have followed and denied racism, he might have been more successful.

PS. I can find absolutely no details of any book, so I'd love to know where that snippet came from.

Volver you have completely forgotten that she must have recorded the conversation because how would she remember what was said. Maybe being black means you can't remember things too! I am horrified at the way this conversation has turned out and hat's off to you for standing your ground against this racism.

👍🏼

Iam64 Millworkers in Manchester and Lancashire were generally in favour of the abolition of slavery, even though it meant their own jobs were at risk through a rise in the price of raw materials. It's good to see that there was solidarity with oppressed people, rather than just looking after themselves.

PS. Sorry, that's a diversion, but social history of the Industrial Revolution is an interest.

icanhandthemback

Volver you have completely forgotten that she must have recorded the conversation because how would she remember what was said. Maybe being black means you can't remember things too! I am horrified at the way this conversation has turned out and hat's off to you for standing your ground against this racism.

I'm not black and I could remember a conversation like that.

Sorry, just realised you were being ironic.

ALANaV

For someone who wanted PRIVACY she certainly seems to be going the right way !!!! She needs to keep quiet and just go away ...we are NOT interested in what she thinks or has to say ....just let her have her desired 'PRIVACY'............

...we are NOT interested in what she thinks or has to say

You could have fooled me!

We are on page 10 of yet another article about her - not to even mention the numerous media stories and editorials that pop up regularly.

You'd think the press would've cottoned on by now that no-one's interested in what she says or thinks, they're usually quite clever at working out what's in the public interest, or rather, what interests the public - after all they depend on the advertising revenue that high circulation numbers attract so if "we are NOT interested", I'm surprised they persist with their click-bait articles!

Growstuff . Well, I'm white and my memory is hopeless. Not only can I not remember what was said, I often don't even remember the conversation ever happening.

icanhandthemback

Volver you have completely forgotten that she must have recorded the conversation because how would she remember what was said. Maybe being black means you can't remember things too! I am horrified at the way this conversation has turned out and hat's off to you for standing your ground against this racism.

Right? Talk about stereotypical. Old white people claim racism isn't really important.

ALANaV

For someone who wanted PRIVACY she certainly seems to be going the right way !!!! She needs to keep quiet and just go away ...we are NOT interested in what she thinks or has to say ....just let her have her desired 'PRIVACY'............

Oh if only.

Old white people claim racism isn't really important.

Maybe not all of the people on here but more than I thought I'd see.

Growstuff, like you, I’ve an interesting in the industrial revolution. Manchester Mill workers supported the abolition of slavery. On the wall of the market hall in a small town in the north west, is a beautiful sculptured head, made in the image of an escaped slave, who came to England, where he talked to cotton workers about the terrible conditions of the slaves.

The cotton workers also supported the Indian workers, Ghandi visited Mill towns in the northwest.
Solidarity

icanhandthemback

^Old white people claim racism isn't really important.^

Maybe not all of the people on here but more than I thought I'd see.

Exactly. In any other context they seem nice. But issues around ethnicity (and trans) show a less pleasant side.

Anniel

Volver,

Well i saw it reported that the exchange WAS recorded. If it wasnt then how the hell could that dialogue have been memorised so exactly word perfectly?

Because there were several witnesses?

How many people would need to witness this in real life for people in the UK to believe it happened?

How many statements from the POW and the Palace need to be sent out for the citizens of the UK for them to believe it was racist?

Okay I nearly spat my soup out lol - for possibly the first time ever I agree with volver. I dislike some of the things Harry and Meghan have done since leaving the UK but I always believed they had good reasons for leaving. This information about threats towards Meghan is just additional confirmation - remember she was not only a "commoner" in aristocracy parlance, but also an American with only a very distant knowledge of the British monarchy, completely different from Catherine who at least had her British familiarity with our royals. It must have been a complete culture shock, as well as the more upsetting aspects such as personal threats and issues with her being mixed race. The way the media behaved towards her was truly disgusting at times and I have no doubt this contributed towards the hatred the far right felt for her as a mixed race woman who dared to marry Prince Harry.

Harry should have his titles removed, they are toxic and determined to do damage to his family, Megan has no family of her own, they have all been estranged apart from her mother, so only they are right and everyone else wrong. Without titles or contact they can just have themselves, pity they have to cash in on the Royal family, that’s why we comment, just cash the cheques and stay where they are. Hopefully America will see genuine people in Kate and William.

Allsorts

Harry should have his titles removed, they are toxic and determined to do damage to his family, Megan has no family of her own, they have all been estranged apart from her mother, so only they are right and everyone else wrong. Without titles or contact they can just have themselves, pity they have to cash in on the Royal family, that’s why we comment, just cash the cheques and stay where they are. Hopefully America will see genuine people in Kate and William.

She has a mother, husband, two children. Doing pretty well on the family front, really.

Megan has some wonderful family

Doesn't take much research to see why she has estranged the rest.

But, Volver she should have contact with them who has a restraining order against him for threatening to kill a British journalist.

I am sure he is a great guy.