Meghan Markle Faced 'Disgusting and Very Real' Threats in the U.K., Former Counterterrorism Head Says

I haven't seen any evidence of Meghan criticising her family. I'm also not aware of anything to suggest that they're responsible for causing emotional damage or are abusive in any way

Me neither, Smileless.
Estrangement can happen for many reasons.

Projecting one's own experiences and feelings on to others does not mean those experiences are at all relevant to the other person.

I agree icanhandthemback. I haven't seen any evidence of Meghan criticising her family. I'm also not aware of anything to suggest that they're responsible for causing emotional damage or are abusive in any way.

Those are reasons why some estrange family members, but are not the only reasons.

As you say Callistemon, when children are old enough and ready to do so they're entitled to form their own relationships with family that their parents have chosen to have no contact with.

It does happen.

Bibblebibbleblop

Disappointed at some of the throughly inhuman responses on here. One thing is for certain, if you said anything dismissive and nasty you are an ignorant degenerate.

Nice that you managed to avoid being nasty 🙄🙄

If I know that a person is abusive, be that physically, sexually or emotionally...

Then I'm definitely going to tell my child, whether they are an adult or not, that person is not safe.

I'm not going to just stand by and allow them to take a risk without telling them the truth

I will project facts at my children

Sorry you don't like that

But I will do the same for anyone walking away from abusers and tell them "Good job mum" for protecting their children

VioletSky

No.

I will teach my children we don't have to have relationships with abusive people.

And I will teach them what abuse looks like

And that's no one else's business

You can do as you wish, of course.

And that's no one else's business
Absolutely right

People who cause emotional damage by their behaviour are generally best avoided
They may not cause emotional damage to everyone.

You cannot say that your way of thinking is necessarily the right way for every family.

No.

I will teach my children we don't have to have relationships with abusive people.

And I will teach them what abuse looks like

And that's no one else's business

VioletSky

Its a hood lesson to teach children

We don't tolerate abuse no matter who it is

I don't think so.

You'd be projecting your own feelings on to your children.

They are entitled to make their own relationships with family members when they are ready.
Their experiences and relationships may be totally different from yours.

Its a hood lesson to teach children

We don't tolerate abuse no matter who it is

Iam64

Icanhandthemback is right of course. No contact can protect rather than damage children, or indeed adults. People who cause emotional damage by their behaviour are generally best avoided

I agree.
If Meghan and Harry say nothing about her estranged family the children will not know anything.

However, when they are old enough they will begin to ask questions.

Disappointed at some of the throughly inhuman responses on here. One thing is for certain, if you said anything dismissive and nasty you are an ignorant degenerate.

Icanhandthemback is right of course. No contact can protect rather than damage children, or indeed adults. People who cause emotional damage by their behaviour are generally best avoided

I should imagine that some the damage for children comes before the estrangement because of the arguments between the adults and some from maybe losing somebody they are close to where they hear terrible stories. Meghan was estranged from her family before her children were born so the chances are the children will know no different and will be quite well adjusted because of that. We have no evidence that she is saying nasty things about her family.
My children grew up without their maternal grandfather (his choice rather than mine) and don't feel damaged. When he did come into their lives as adults, although I have never said anything against him, they came to their own decision that he was not someone to whom they could feel warm towards. They tried for my sake but he turned out to be a wrong 'un.
No contact sometimes protects children rather than damaging them if done in the right way.

Allsorts

Violet, where is the evidence that children are fine in estrangement situation? Parents might think so, as when children are tiny everything mom says is true to them, no question, as they develop for a quiet life they don’t rock the boat, as they get older they question, if indeed they have a mind of of their own. They will probably find out about cousins, of grandparents etc, visit and decide for themselves, especially if mom is lacking in certain areas or difficult.
Children benefit from grandparents, aunts and uncles, of course if there has been mental or physical abuse that’s different and I believe when ready the children need to know why. So many times it’s used as emotional blackmail or jealousy.
I know you had an abusive and cruel mother and obviously you wanted to protect your children from that, but that’s not always the case.

I haven't at any point mentioned children that haven't been estranged due to abuse.

Megan has clearly topic family members

Violet, where is the evidence that children are fine in estrangement situation? Parents might think so, as when children are tiny everything mom says is true to them, no question, as they develop for a quiet life they don’t rock the boat, as they get older they question, if indeed they have a mind of of their own. They will probably find out about cousins, of grandparents etc, visit and decide for themselves, especially if mom is lacking in certain areas or difficult.
Children benefit from grandparents, aunts and uncles, of course if there has been mental or physical abuse that’s different and I believe when ready the children need to know why. So many times it’s used as emotional blackmail or jealousy.
I know you had an abusive and cruel mother and obviously you wanted to protect your children from that, but that’s not always the case.

Piers Morgan is just a nasty piece of work. He threatened Ian Hislop on HIGNFY when he was a guest and Ian said something he didn't like about a scandal that Piers was involved in. I watched it several times thinking it might be a warped sense of humour but it obviously wasn't.

Hell hath no fury like Piers Morgan.

Can't say I listen to him, except when I followed a link on GN once. He is obsessed.

Galaxy

Piers Morgans behaviour in relation to Meghan is deeply disturbing.

I agree. It's abnormal, the grudge he holds for her not wanting a friendship with him.

Iam64

I looked at the daily m this morning. As always, it has pages of criticism of H and M, setting them against W and K in some kind of horrible competition. In the DM view, of course one couple are pantomime villains, the other perfect in every way.

Imagine any family subjected to this kind of exploitative, nasty publicity and not being negatively affected.

They did this with Diana and Sarah too.

Piers Morgans behaviour in relation to Meghan is deeply disturbing.

In a morning with a lot of competition, this has got to be the funniest post yet.

Why not let the Megan (sic) and Harry followers, free to follow, the rest of us concentrate on something interesting.

In the midst of a blizzard of posts telling how they aren't liked and should be ignored.

It's not just the papers. Twitter and other social media sites have hundreds of thousands of really vile posts about Harry and Meghan, not to mention Piers Morgan's personal campaign. I honestly think he has some kind of obsessive condition.

I have no opinion of either of them. I guess they might be better to keep a low profile for their own good, but on the other hand, I don't see why they should. I can't help thinking that there must be something in some people's psyche which means they have to have some kind of hate figure and/or have the right to judge people. I don't get why they don't just deny them the oxygen of publicity.

I looked at the daily m this morning. As always, it has pages of criticism of H and M, setting them against W and K in some kind of horrible competition. In the DM view, of course one couple are pantomime villains, the other perfect in every way.

Imagine any family subjected to this kind of exploitative, nasty publicity and not being negatively affected.

Smileless2012

I agree that Meghan failed to adjust to her life in the RF and the UK but don't agree that her failure was purely due to Lady S, members of the RF or palace aides and officials.

It's possible MM might have stood a chance of adjusting if the media hadn't watched her every move - and reported on it. Who knows? Certainly not me - because it may not have made any difference. I just don't think the constant media attention - inevitable of course - helped her situation in any way.
I feel sorry for anyone entering the hallowed precincts of the RF - the press, recognising the public's insatiable appetite for all things 'royal' will exploit every angle.
Kate - and her family - also had to endure media scrutiny.
It's all a bit unsavoury.

Allsorts

Why not let the Megan and Harry followers, free to follow, the rest of us concentrate on something interesting. We really don't need to know how mega millionaires are suffering. Ordinary hardworking peope who keep this country going are struggling with the basics.,Time forca reality check I think.

Why don't YOU get on with your life? I really couldn't care less about anybody in the royal family, including Harry and Meghan, but it's sickening to see the obsession with them by some judgemental posters. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life? if you don't like them, try looking for the "off" button!

Katie59

growstuff

Allsorts

GaraJo, The children will grow up to question why everyone else is at fault but mom and dad, unless they are completely brainwashed.

That's doubtful.

As children they will be brainwashed as adults they will make their own judgements

They have a loving family.