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Buckingham Palace Aide resigns

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Parsley3 Wed 30-Nov-22 14:12:28

BBC News - Buckingham Palace aide resigns over remarks to black charity boss
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-63810468

Well at least the Palace took this incident seriously and didn't fob off Ms Fulani's complaint.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Dec-22 10:38:13

Just a thought,

Ms Fulani is obviously proud of her Afro/Caribbean routes and rightly so which is why she dressed in traditional Afro/Caribbean style

When Lady Hussey asked her where are you from Ms. Fulani could have had an interesting conversation regarding her ancestors origin which in turn could have led to a conversation promoting the charity she was there to represent, @sistaspace a domestic violence charity for Afro/Caribbean women.

Instead we are in an increasingly unpleasant situation.

volver Thu 01-Dec-22 10:36:13

It's probably not true because nobody has heard any recording, and it has only been brought up now that we are in the "Blame Fulani" stage of the debate.

Many people saying it doesn't make it true.

So, still waiting for evidence. Happy to accept any you've got or Aveline's got, then I'll change my mind. If you've got any.

sarabande Thu 01-Dec-22 10:34:38

I wonder why...

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Dec-22 10:34:00

GagaJo

William and Katherine are getting booed in the US. Shades of their Caribbean tour spring to mind.

Despite the dislike in the UK of Meghan and Harry, other parts of the world have different viewpoints about our royal family. And they're not always positive.

And people wonder why MM & H moved to the US? They aren't reviled there.

Yes it is on twitter.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Dec-22 10:33:13

DaisyAnne

Whitewavemark2

Woke simply means empathy and emotional intelligence.

So it is very odd to use the term in a derogatory and accusatory way.

It is also very odd to be derogatory and accusatory about how others express empathy and emotional intelligence. We are not all the same.

I like to learn. I don't want to hurt people's feelings because I don't understand how they would interpret what I say. I see language as a tool.

I do not like to be "told" how to behave and talk by people who seem to think they know everything and are always right. I also believe we all have to learn to be resilient against the slings and arrows of modern life. That is all of us, not just the those selected by a minority as unworthy.

😄 you sound very miffed today?

DaisyAnne Thu 01-Dec-22 10:32:03

volver

DaisyAnne

volver

Aveline

Curiouser and curiouser. Fulani was wearing a wire apparently and has a mission to find and call out racism.

Links?

Evidence?

Corroboration?

Got any? Interested to see them.

(If she really did have a mission to call out racism she's succeeded.)

I found this: twitter.com/penninehiker/status/1598030397707026432

I have no idea if it's a trusted source or not.

It does beg the question as to how she could publish what seemed like a verbatim transcript. Maybe she has a good memory.

DaisyAnne that's not evidence. That's just somebody saying it.

I think I made that clear Volver. It is being said by others and Aveline might well have seen that. As yet we do not know if it is true or not.

Have you decided to be "teacher" on GN and mark all our "homework" or is it just mine? If it is, could you please read what I say before you do the marking.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 01-Dec-22 10:31:34

Ms.Fulani said she was invited to Buckingham Palace to discuss the conversation so far she has declined

sarabande Thu 01-Dec-22 10:28:19

I would prefer the option of the 2 people meeting to discuss the problem, and with an apology. Resigning feels like being 'shut up' which does not address the problem.

GagaJo Thu 01-Dec-22 10:19:38

William and Katherine are getting booed in the US. Shades of their Caribbean tour spring to mind.

Despite the dislike in the UK of Meghan and Harry, other parts of the world have different viewpoints about our royal family. And they're not always positive.

And people wonder why MM & H moved to the US? They aren't reviled there.

Grany Thu 01-Dec-22 10:18:46

The Royals have never apologised for or addressed their historical involvement with the slave trade, and how they benefit from it still today. It is essential that they do.

volver Thu 01-Dec-22 10:17:16

DaisyAnne

volver

Aveline

Curiouser and curiouser. Fulani was wearing a wire apparently and has a mission to find and call out racism.

Links?

Evidence?

Corroboration?

Got any? Interested to see them.

(If she really did have a mission to call out racism she's succeeded.)

I found this: twitter.com/penninehiker/status/1598030397707026432

I have no idea if it's a trusted source or not.

It does beg the question as to how she could publish what seemed like a verbatim transcript. Maybe she has a good memory.

DaisyAnne that's not evidence. That's just somebody saying it.

GagaJo Thu 01-Dec-22 10:15:40

eazybee

I am curious as to why the woman in question couldn't or wouldn't answer the questions from Lady Hussey.

I wouldn't engage with a racist, either.

No one is required to respond to another person if they don't wish to.

GagaJo Thu 01-Dec-22 10:14:37

Aveline

Curiouser and curiouser. Fulani was wearing a wire apparently and has a mission to find and call out racism.

How do you know this?

Parsley3 Thu 01-Dec-22 10:13:34

If the Prince of Wales and the Palace say it is racist and unacceptable then that is good enough for me.

DaisyAnne Thu 01-Dec-22 10:12:23

Whitewavemark2

Woke simply means empathy and emotional intelligence.

So it is very odd to use the term in a derogatory and accusatory way.

It is also very odd to be derogatory and accusatory about how others express empathy and emotional intelligence. We are not all the same.

I like to learn. I don't want to hurt people's feelings because I don't understand how they would interpret what I say. I see language as a tool.

I do not like to be "told" how to behave and talk by people who seem to think they know everything and are always right. I also believe we all have to learn to be resilient against the slings and arrows of modern life. That is all of us, not just the those selected by a minority as unworthy.

Grany Thu 01-Dec-22 10:08:58

The Monarchy's exemption from the provisions of race discrimination legislation must end now.

Lucca Thu 01-Dec-22 10:05:13

Whitewavemark2

Well, at least the doubters no longer need be in any doubt.

Duchess of Sussex had a point.

You reckon ?! Nothing will stop the “doubters”

DaisyAnne Thu 01-Dec-22 10:01:50

volver

Aveline

Curiouser and curiouser. Fulani was wearing a wire apparently and has a mission to find and call out racism.

Links?

Evidence?

Corroboration?

Got any? Interested to see them.

(If she really did have a mission to call out racism she's succeeded.)

I found this: twitter.com/penninehiker/status/1598030397707026432

I have no idea if it's a trusted source or not.

It does beg the question as to how she could publish what seemed like a verbatim transcript. Maybe she has a good memory.

Whitewavemark2 Thu 01-Dec-22 09:56:14

Woke simply means empathy and emotional intelligence.

So it is very odd to use the term in a derogatory and accusatory way.

volver Thu 01-Dec-22 09:53:35

DaisyAnne

volver

eazybee

I am curious as to why the woman in question couldn't or wouldn't answer the questions from Lady Hussey.

Because it's none of Lady's Hussey's business?

That's just silly. Small talk often includes what you do and where you come from.

Small talk?

No, where are you really from? When did you move here? What nationality are you?

I do understand this doesn't appear racist to many people so I'll just give up for now. I'm sure there will be rejoicing in the street at that news.

DaisyAnne Thu 01-Dec-22 09:52:16

MaizieD

eazybee

I am curious as to why the woman in question couldn't or wouldn't answer the questions from Lady Hussey.

She did answer the questions. She just didn't give the answer that was required.The answer, incidentally, to a question that wasn't asked.

Some might say that answer is verging on paranoia. Worrying about what wasn't asked? Really?

volver Thu 01-Dec-22 09:51:15

Aveline

Curiouser and curiouser. Fulani was wearing a wire apparently and has a mission to find and call out racism.

Links?

Evidence?

Corroboration?

Got any? Interested to see them.

(If she really did have a mission to call out racism she's succeeded.)

Yammy Thu 01-Dec-22 09:51:15

I'm going to take another stance here after reading the transcript and watching T.V. Why did the coloured lady who was born in England and is 61 feel she had to dress like the people of the country where her parents were from. Provocative? making a point? We are all taking her side but did she not realise that dressing the way she did brings questions?
I know freedom of dress, freedom of speech and I agree with them but surely a well-chosen outfit to catch attention.

DaisyAnne Thu 01-Dec-22 09:50:57

volver

eazybee

I am curious as to why the woman in question couldn't or wouldn't answer the questions from Lady Hussey.

Because it's none of Lady's Hussey's business?

That's just silly. Small talk often includes what you do and where you come from.

MaizieD Thu 01-Dec-22 09:48:55

eazybee

I am curious as to why the woman in question couldn't or wouldn't answer the questions from Lady Hussey.

She did answer the questions. She just didn't give the answer that was required.The answer, incidentally, to a question that wasn't asked.

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