Harry and Meghan- Netflix Trailer.

volver

I apologised for using the word hate.

On two different occasions today, M has been accused of trying to bring down our way of life, and getting the Coronation stopped.

It's not normal thinking. Is it?

Totally missed those posts, volver

I admit to dipping in and out between the gym, choosing a Christmas tree ( so stressful to a Christmas decoration perfectionist like me) and general faffing around.

I think the press pack/media have to shoulder their fair share of the responsibility for the current Sussex v Cambridge situation.

I also think that maybe Meghan didn’t understand, despite receiving guidance what being a member of the RF entailed. Maybe Harry didn’t explain fully, who knows?

I’m so glad the late Queen isn’t witnessing this bizarre situation.

What a pain at least one of this couple is.

So why so much hatred for H & M is there hatred for them or a strong distaste for what they say and do? For me it's the latter.

If they are happy for a photograph to be shown to 'show' how they're hounded by the press which has no relation to what they've experienced and allow people to believe it's authentic then yes, they are lying, and not for the first time.

It's been said of Diana that she played the press, used them when she wanted too and complained bitterly when they reported things over which she had no control.

I admired Diana but am still able to see the validity of that claim. H has spent his adult life doing exactly the same thing as his mother, only he and M have taken it further.

They use the press to publicly trash and humiliate his family. They constantly court publicity, use the papparazi who he claims hounded his mother to her death, and have no apparent qualms about being paid by Netflix, who have by all accounts done a dramatisation of the crash that killed his mother, for an episode of 'The Crown'.

errmmm - they knew they were making a documentary and got a photographer along to take pictures of them to promote it?

Because that's what photographers do...?

So they had a photographer on hand 24/7 else how did they obtain these intimate pictures?

I apologised for using the word hate.

On two different occasions today, M has been accused of trying to bring down our way of life, and getting the Coronation stopped.

It's not normal thinking. Is it?

Yes, it does.

Kind of goes better with Chelsea, doesn’t it?

volver

I can see that you care Smileless2012. I can see that lots of people care.

So why so much hatred (sorry, can't think of another word) for H&M and not for the press that print the most despicable, pathetic and unproven things about them and about others.

A stock picture used for milliseconds in a one-minute promo created by a production company means that they, personally, are lying?

Saying "they do it so, so we can do it too" is pretty childish, isn't it?

I do not hate them, why would I?

I was 100% on their side before the Oprah interview, a lot of what they said during it has been disproved, now I am 50/50.

I hope that are happy as a family, they left the U.K. and resigned from being active royals because they wanted privacy.

So why have they ferocious courted publicity since arriving in California ?

As the old showbiz saying goes there is no such thing as bad publicity

I think Garry quite suits him!

Garry Harry😬

volver

Oh now, just come on!!

Smileless2012, look at this. Now they "tamper" with photographs. 🤷🏼

Well they did tamper with the photo of Garry hiding his face from the photographers. They used one that had him with Chelsea from years back.

I do think it matters if you’re trying to portray your life and then use photographs from someone else’s life and pretend it’s yours.

Do you think he has the right to attribute his feelings about marrying into this family to others?

Catherine seems to have taken to her role like a duck to water. It’s quite wrong for him to believe he has the right to attribute thoughts and feelings to her, don’t you think?

Oh now, just come on!!

Smileless2012, look at this. Now they "tamper" with photographs. 🤷🏼

What puzzles me is how they got these intimate photographs. Did/do they have an in house photographer at the ready to snap these events as they happened? Meghan crying,Harry in despair, kissing in the kitchen and so on, or, as is more likely, different photos have been tampered with to produce the desired end product. Very odd!

I can see that you care Smileless2012. I can see that lots of people care.

So why so much hatred (sorry, can't think of another word) for H&M and not for the press that print the most despicable, pathetic and unproven things about them and about others.

A stock picture used for milliseconds in a one-minute promo created by a production company means that they, personally, are lying?

Saying "they do it so, so we can do it too" is pretty childish, isn't it?

So not just about race then?

Calendargirl

Harry describes it as ‘a dirty game’ apparently.

He also speaks about ‘the pain and suffering that women marrying into this family’ encounter.

Obviously referring to Meghan and Diana.

Camilla, Catherine, Sophie, they must all be made of sterner stuff, one assumes.

If you read again, he included Kate in it.

Unlike you I do care volver. I care when I see them trying to bring down a family and I care when I see how members of the public can be manipulated by people like H & M, and the press into believing the lies that are being spun.

As for taking the tiniest thing, blow it out of all proportion, embellish it, and use it as "proof" H & M are the true masters.

Yes perhaps they are.

And that is a problem why?

Something wrong with not being "made of sterner stuff"?

Harry describes it as ‘a dirty game’ apparently.

He also speaks about ‘the pain and suffering that women marrying into this family’ encounter.

Obviously referring to Meghan and Diana.

Camilla, Catherine, Sophie, they must all be made of sterner stuff, one assumes.

I don't care what they tell us, mainly because I don't think they are trying to bring down civilisation as we know it. And I'm not really interested in what they say. I am interested in two particular things.

How members of the public can be manipulated by the press to like/dislike anybody the press decides on.

And how some members of the population will take the tiniest thing, blow it out of all proportion, embellish it, and use it as "proof" that the hate figure is really an enemy of all we hold dear.

Don't you think that they weaken their case by this false presentation? just a bit Lathyrus and the blatant lies don't exactly help either.

So there ought to be enough to tell without having to fake things.

What’s the point in making stuff up if there’s real incidents to speak of.

Don’t you think they weaken their case by this fake presentation?

I think we all recognise racism volver

I beg to differ.

I know it's not done to quote other threads, but this weekend has seen a barrage of claims asserting that a blatant racist incident was just bit rude, or was the fault of the person who looked a bit different.

The press will use anything available to them to try to turn the public against the people they have decided we're not to like, and to generate clicks/sell newspapers. But pretending that some of the criticism of Meghan isn't, or wasn't rooted in racism, is just not credible.