Capsized boat in the channel - 30 to 50 on board

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Bignanny2

Oh so 43 of them are being treated in hospital where my friends husband has been in A&E for 40 hours after having had a stroke.

In Dover?

They won’t need hospital treatment unless they have hypothermia or were injured in transfer. I would guess most were checked over and have been moved to a migrant centre by now.

25Avalon

Refugees are forced to flee to save their lives. A migrant chooses to move. These are migrants not refugees.

How do you know?

25Avalon

They had £5000 each and were in a safe country ie France.

How do you know?

Bignanny2

Oh so 43 of them are being treated in hospital where my friends husband has been in A&E for 40 hours after having had a stroke.

In Dover?

farview

Completely agree with jennifereccles and*25Avalon*...I'm not a hard hearted person but our NHS...Schools etc cannot cope as it is...

So let the refugees work and pay tax and build more schools and hospitals. Some of them might even be teachers or medics.

Oh so 43 of them are being treated in hospital where my friends husband has been in A&E for 40 hours after having had a stroke.

I turned off the radio in disgust after hearing the usual "My heart goes out to the families" from the likes of Suella Braverman. I don't believe she has a heart anyway, but I am sick of this hypocrisy which demands that every comment on any tragedy has to start with the "thoughts and prayers" stuff.

Sorry, rant over. And breathe.

Quokka
Yes I can understand that they would see no danger.
I would imagine that most of the migrants have no experience with the sea. If you stand on that stretch of coastline you feel you could almost touch the lights of Dover. The sea is like a mill pond, you see ( probably for the first time) this huge inflatable, powerful outboard is provided and, a life jacket.
What could possibly go wrong 😥

What a load of bull** I’m reading in some posts. Do you imagine for one minute that anyone, anyone? especially with young children would risk their lives crossing the Channel in a small boat, in December, if they were able to get here by other means.

No matter if you have the cash to buy an air ticket, a ferry ticket or a train ticket for the tunnel you cannot. Cannot!

Read the government’s own website.

Completely agree with jennifereccles and*25Avalon*...I'm not a hard hearted person but our NHS...Schools etc cannot cope as it is...

25Avalon

They had £5000 each and were in a safe country ie France.

For the n millionth time. Asylum seekers are not obliged to stay in any specific 'safe country'. This is International Law.

As for having the money to pay the traffickers, even if it hasn't been scraped together from various sources, it's still possible to be comparatively well off and still need to seek asylum. Your argument is completely specious.

25Avalon

They had £5000 each and were in a safe country ie France.

You don’t know. They may be from a war torn country, with relatives in the UK and have scraped enough together by selling all their worldly possessions. You don’t know, you’ve made it up based on your own assumptions.

They had £5000 each and were in a safe country ie France.

25Avalon

Refugees are forced to flee to save their lives. A migrant chooses to move. These are migrants not refugees.

How can you possibly know that yet? We don’t know their backgrounds, or what countries they came from?

Refugees are forced to flee to save their lives. A migrant chooses to move. These are migrants not refugees.

People are either Asylum seekers or refugees they can’t be both.

Migrants are simply those entering a country for work. They are neither asylum seekers or refugees.

Confusing the terms doesn’t help to understand the situation.

The majority of those saved were actually saved by a fishing boat which coincidentally happened to be nearby when the dinghy deflated.
news.sky.com/story/they-surrounded-our-boat-screaming-for-help-fishing-crew-saved-31-stranded-in-the-english-channel-12767879

There is a difference between refugee asylum seekers and migrants. These migrants paid £5,000 each to be in that boat so not exactly destitute and many of them do not speak English. They have to accept some culpability for putting their lives and those of the emergency services at risk as the Retired Naval commander said on Sky News.

The Shadow Labour Home minister suggested we could employ much better technology including the use of drones to see where these people are getting on boats so they can be prevented. A good idea but surely can only be carried out by the French.

I recommend watching the film 'SWIMMERS.' It's about two Syrian girls and a male cousin trying to get to Germany so that they can train to swim in the Olympics for their country. They fall into the hands of people smugglers....

25Avalon

This is why this migration by small boats needs to be stopped. Not only are these migrants risking their lives in freezing cold waters but now local people can’t access A&E either. Emergency services are searching in awful conditions. There has to be a better way. We either stop it completely like Australia or we have a better system in place for migrants to legally apply. The traffickers who organise the boats have blood on their hands.

It could be stopped tomorrow if legal routes to application were available.

Would anyone like to explain why the Conservative government hasn't done this in the 12 years they have been in power.

there would always be a Left - leaning Human Rights lawyer ready to appeal on their behalf.

Exercising the law is not a crime, you know, nor is being left wing.

Observing the Rule of Law is a mark of a civilised society.

I don’t care whether they are refugees, asylum seekers or whatever label you want to use. They are human beings, risking their lives for a better future. Show some compassion!

Asylum seekers get £40.85 a week on a payment card to cover food, clothing, toiletries, pocket money, including mobile phone, which is more or less essential.

www.gov.uk/asylum-support/what-youll-get

Errrmmm JenniferEccles what fiction have you been reading?

My asylum seeker friends waited 13 years to be housed. I'm not sure that counts as an easy ride. Although, they were just glad to be somewhere their lives weren't in danger.

A bit of humanity wouldn't go amiss.