What does an SNP MSP have to say to those concerned about the Gender Recognition Reform (self-id of sex) Bill?

I think you'll find that as in all aspects of life SNP .MP's and MSP's have their own individual views .The SNP like all parties is not one homogenous mass

Maybe, paddyann54, but what I can't understand is why most of them as well as the Labour and Lib Dem MSPs are determined to carry on with this legislation ins spite of a lot of disquiet (to say the least) among the general public. It's come to something when the only people many of us can agree with on this subject are the Tories.

I think you'll find paddyann that SNP will 'whip' its MSPs to vote for the GRR Bill.
You may recall that Ash Regan MSP had to resign her ministerial post because she was voting against it at its previous stage.

Do you paddyann have any views about how uninformed Fulton McGregor seems to be, on this important topic?
Do you have reason to believe that other MSPs are better informed ?

I think you will find this is going to be another long and boring thread.

We all have different opinions on what is boring thankfully.

There are numerous threads on GN which don't interest me.
I don't bother going onto them to say they are boring, tho. Why would someone do that?

Wheniwasyourage

Maybe, paddyann54, but what I can't understand is why most of them as well as the Labour and Lib Dem MSPs are determined to carry on with this legislation ins spite of a lot of disquiet (to say the least) among the general public. It's come to something when the only people many of us can agree with on this subject are the Tories.

If you agree with the Scottish Tories and everybody else thinks differently, that's telling you something.

But it not everybody else it's just those MSPs too foolish to look at how the majority of the country is thinking of the subject.

Also if the Tories were saying the earth is round I would be agreeing with them. Politics isnt like supporting a football team.

Aveline

But it not everybody else it's just those MSPs too foolish to look at how the majority of the country is thinking of the subject.

Evidence for it being the majority of the country?

Galaxy

Also if the Tories were saying the earth is round I would be agreeing with them. Politics isnt like supporting a football team.

But then the other parties would be saying it's round too. The Tories wouldn't be outliers.

Galaxy was just using that as an example.
Politics isn’t like supporting a football team? It is for some!
The SNP can do no wrong y’know.😂

It’s a slippery slope and all women should be concerned.

Oreo

Galaxy was just using that as an example.
Politics isn’t like supporting a football team? It is for some!
The SNP can do no wrong y’know.😂

I know how examples work "Oreo". I extended the analogy.

Sorry - Oreo, not "Oreo".

Five minutes ago the outliers on prisons, puberty blockers, mermaids, tavistock etc were a few feminists, now its mainstream thinking, sometimes the outliers are right.

Oh and the Tories used to be great supporters of self ID until Johnson decided it was a vote winner to pretend to be interested in womens boundaries, they care not one jot about women or transpeople.

Galaxy

Oh and the Tories used to be great supporters of self ID until Johnson decided it was a vote winner to pretend to be interested in womens boundaries, they care not one jot about women or transpeople.

Exactly.

Not interested in doing what's right, only what's popular.

volver

Galaxy

Oh and the Tories used to be great supporters of self ID until Johnson decided it was a vote winner to pretend to be interested in womens boundaries, they care not one jot about women or transpeople.

Exactly.

Not interested in doing what's right, only what's popular.

Being right and being popular are not mutually exclusive.

"If you agree with the Scottish Tories and everybody else thinks differently, that's telling you something."

"Not interested in doing what's right, only what's popular."

These two comments of yours, volver, seem to me to be contradicting each other. I am sad to think that I am agreeing with the Scottish Tories, but if they are actually saying what many people think (ie popular), perhaps for once they are right, as Doodledog says. It doesn't say anything about my political views except that I may well be in the majority here and for once, so are the Scottish Tories.

Does anybody have any proof at all that the majority agree with the Tories on this?

Some things can be popular without garnering the support of the majority. Is that difficult to understand?

I read this, this morning: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63993415

If it's anything like GN it's just a very vocal and repetitive minority.

"Does anybody have any proof at all that the majority agree with the Tories on this?

Some things can be popular without garnering the support of the majority. Is that difficult to understand?"

Does anybody have any proof that they don't? Your news link just reports the views of another expert, and the finishing line on the link sums it up, I think:

"Just as campaigners and parliamentarians are split, so too are experts."

I response to your final question, volver, no it isn't difficult to understand, thank you for asking.

When someone says, "do you have proof or evidence to back up your assertion?" its not a valid answer to say "Do you have proof that its not true?" For instance:

"I think the moon is made of green cheese."

Can you prove it? Do you have any evidence?

"Can you prove its not?"

That's not how it works. 🤷🏼 Except maybe in primary school.

BTW, I know what the content of the link is. People have different ideas about this. Just thought that maybe people would be interested in seeing another view. Guess not.