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Are there no limits to the greed of Boris Johnson?

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HousePlantQueen Sat 17-Dec-22 14:46:37

I can just about believe that there are people rich/stupid enough to pay huge amounts of money to listen to the Liar in Chief expound his theories on whatever, I am not surprised at all that he doesn't think he needs to actually represent his constituents but is entitled to be on holiday at someone else's expense or being paid in excess of £200k+ per appearance in USA or wherever, but I draw the line at the news that we, as taxpayers, are reportedly paying the legal fees for his defence against charges of Misconduct in Public Office. Has he no moral code at all?

Rosie51 Sat 17-Dec-22 14:51:20

HPQ Do you really have to ask the question? I'd have thought he's demonstrated often enough there are no depths to which he will not sink. I didn't know we were paying his legal fees, and I'm disgusted that this is possible.

GagaJo Sat 17-Dec-22 14:51:38

No, I don't think he does. I think he's out for as much as he can get from anywhere he can get it. Blood money if necessary.

Quokka Sat 17-Dec-22 15:11:20

Simple answer ‘none’.

HousePlantQueen Sat 17-Dec-22 15:12:10

You are right Rosie51, I really don't need to ask the question, but just sometimes, as I watch lie after lie come out of Downing Street, listen to them trying to convince everyone that the fault lies with striking miners/desperate migrants on dinghies, just sometimes, the sheer brass neck of Johnson and Sunak who presumably is signing this off...well, it just takes my breath away. For anyone who is concerned about paying to defend this man, it is costing in the region of £130k+ and rising. www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/13/ministers-accused-of-writing-blank-cheque-for-boris-johnson-legal-bills

Rosie51 Sat 17-Dec-22 15:19:18

Oh I get it HousePlantQueen, it's frustrating as bit after bit gets revealed. (My do you need to? ..... looks abrupt, I didn't mean it to flowers ) Thanks for bringing this to my attention and for the link although I'm not sure my blood pressure would thank you........

AGAA4 Sat 17-Dec-22 16:19:34

No he has no moral code and it seems many Tories don't either.

M0nica Sat 17-Dec-22 16:28:10

Are there no limits to the greed of Boris Johnson? Of course there aren't. He is a boor and a glutton, for money, for food (from the look of him) and even marriage doesn't seem to curb his appetite for women.

Wheniwasyourage Sat 17-Dec-22 19:27:50

Appropriate that this thread came just below one called "Who do we hate this week?" on Active when I looked at it. No contest, I would think! grin

FarNorth Sat 17-Dec-22 19:41:50

Boris Johnson is getting Legal Aid??

Allsorts Sat 17-Dec-22 23:34:31

Love uk but getting more rattled by how daft weve become. Much too. soft on things. Public being taken advantage of on so many levels. If some if these politicians got out amongst the people the could find out just what our grievances are.

Katie59 Sun 18-Dec-22 08:52:55

“I think he's out for as much as he can get”

That applies to almost all ex polititians of any party

MaizieD Sun 18-Dec-22 11:33:57

Katie59

“I think he's out for as much as he can get”

That applies to almost all ex polititians of any party

I am really sick of the sins of the few being visited on the decent caring people who go into politics to try and do some good for the country.

Johnson is doubly culpable, not only for being a vile and despicable self server, but also for reinforcing this stupid belief in the minds of many of the electorate.

Dinahmo Sun 18-Dec-22 12:54:52

Allsorts

Love uk but getting more rattled by how daft weve become. Much too. soft on things. Public being taken advantage of on so many levels. If some if these politicians got out amongst the people the could find out just what our grievances are.

They will get comments from their constituents. Probably selected by their constituency office staff. But they don't care about the public, just themselves. I don't think that applies to all MPs but certainly to those currently and previously on the front bench.

Katie59 Sun 18-Dec-22 14:21:04

Maisie you’re right some, no most, go into politics to help the community, then they get involved in party politics and you follow the party line or you’re out.
The only qualification needed to become an MPs is to convince voters that the party is right, if you get to the top of the tree you get to make policy. For some it’s power, some money, some both.

My own MP is a good example, parachuted in to a safe seat holds posts in cabinet he’s not interested in the local area only power and money, changes sides on any issue according to which will prevail, yeah I’m cynical because he’s not even in the ERG.

HousePlantQueen Sun 18-Dec-22 14:47:40

The "they are all the same" argument enrages me, chiefly because many use it to justify voting for a government which is corrupt. Boris Johnson has done huge damage to this country, not just his fake "good old Boris" character which, sadly, many voters fell for, but because he made lying to the HoC, the electorate, normal standard behaviour. How many times have we read "oh, they all lie"? For this degradation of public service alone, I cannot excuse him. To then expect the people he has committed the offence against, the tax paying electorate, pay to defend him is just beyond belief.

varian Sun 18-Dec-22 15:52:10

"they're all the same" is the last retort when we point out the blatant corruption of the Tory Party.

I have heard it from readers of the Torygraph and the Daily Mail.

No - they are not all the same. There may have been, over the years, odd instances of disgraceful behaviour by politicians in other parties but the Tory Party is built upon corruption. It starts with the dodgy billionaire Tory Party donors,

Then we have the institutionalised lying and blatant "I can get away with it attitude epitomised by Dominic Cummings, with the support of the right wing press they can fool a lot of the people a lot of the time.

Now at last some who were fooled into believing their poisonous propaganda are beginning to see through it.

25Avalon Sun 18-Dec-22 16:05:43

Blair isn’t doing too badly either. Ex PM’s nearly always get paid as after dinner speakers etc. Nothing new.

Dh was once at a dinner where Boris Johnston was the main speaker and was surprised at how well Boris put himself across and actually gave an interesting non buffoonish talk, unlike his usual public persona.

Casdon Sun 18-Dec-22 16:20:50

25Avalon

Blair isn’t doing too badly either. Ex PM’s nearly always get paid as after dinner speakers etc. Nothing new.

Dh was once at a dinner where Boris Johnston was the main speaker and was surprised at how well Boris put himself across and actually gave an interesting non buffoonish talk, unlike his usual public persona.

The big difference being that Blair isn’t still being paid as an MP, and Johnson is not fulfilling his MP role because he’s doing this work when he should be in the commons though? So actually there isn’t a parallel.

HousePlantQueen Sun 18-Dec-22 16:23:42

25Avalon

Blair isn’t doing too badly either. Ex PM’s nearly always get paid as after dinner speakers etc. Nothing new.

Dh was once at a dinner where Boris Johnston was the main speaker and was surprised at how well Boris put himself across and actually gave an interesting non buffoonish talk, unlike his usual public persona.

Johnson's buffoonery is all part of his fake, good old boy image which he uses to fool a lot of people. He is a smart conniving liar who has worked out what people will fall for. For this skill I acknowledge his mastery, my opinion of the fools who fall for it however is likely to get me thrown off GN

25Avalon Sun 18-Dec-22 16:48:36

Dh considered he was very clever.

HousePlantQueen Sun 18-Dec-22 17:06:41

Oh he is very clever. And manipulative. And a compulsive liar.

Dinahmo Sun 18-Dec-22 18:53:56

25Avalon

Blair isn’t doing too badly either. Ex PM’s nearly always get paid as after dinner speakers etc. Nothing new.

Dh was once at a dinner where Boris Johnston was the main speaker and was surprised at how well Boris put himself across and actually gave an interesting non buffoonish talk, unlike his usual public persona.

Funnily enough J Vine occasionally mentions 2 dinners, about 2 years apart with Johnson as the guest speaker. He recounts how Johnson ruffled his hair as he walked on and how he "forgot"his words at the same point at each event.

Lovetopaint037 Sun 18-Dec-22 19:04:14

25Avalon

Dh considered he was very clever.

So many did and even do!!! All those Latin/Greek phrases dropping casually from his mouth evoked an aura of superior intelligence. He had the best education available to those with money and with it comes extreme self assurance. Add to this a light hearted humour, tousled hair and an unkempt ( I’m too cerebral to care or notice) appearance and you have a package which fooled so many of the masses.

Oldbat1 Sun 18-Dec-22 19:07:17

It is his “entitlement” that really disgusts me. He doesn’t even bat an eyelid accepting freebies from any direction. Horrible corrupt devious man.