William Hit Harry (The Guardian)

JaneJudge

I wonder what type of dog bowl it is. I thought maybe Fairfax and favor do dog bowls but they only do collars

Talking of dogs and bowls, 🐕 , so why didn't H & M's dog spring into action and bite William on the bum for attacking his master?

As we now know his nickname is Harold I am not surprised he and William disagreed. Harold obviously thought he was the rightful King.
It does all sound like a new chapter of 1066 and all that. 😮

I wonder what type of dog bowl it is. I thought maybe Fairfax and favor do dog bowls but they only do collars

FannyCornforth

My further take on things (and I said this at the time - it’s not hindsight), is that the cracks started to show between Harry and William at the time of the Rose Hanbury rumours.

I think that Harry didn’t approve of William treating Catherine shabbily. I think that he was angry, especially in the light of his mother and father’s relationship(s).

If you remember, Harry and Kate always seemed so close.
When you saw the three of them together it was William who looked the spare part.

I think that Harry took the side of Kate, and it didn’t suit her or William in the end.

(That’s just my slightly informed view with a big dollop of amateur psychology.
There’s no need to point out that ‘we don’t know anything’)

And you don’t think, for one moment, that they might have started these rumours. I’ve read that it was Giles Coren who stated this, quickly retracted saying it was a joke, after being at Soho House in Amsterdam with……Meghan and Harry.

Kamiso

There is a theory that Harry is being pushed to say all these things as fodder for a divorce. How could any woman be expected to remain with such a weak hysterical man? The divorce laws in Florida also favour the women if there’s any money left!

If there’s any truth in that (which I doubt) and I were Meghan, I’d be livid that my dumbo husband had revealed that I was reprimanded for telling Kate she must have ‘baby brain’ because of her hormones!’

In the words of Captain Mainwaring, ‘Stupid Boy!’

Personally I am pleased it’s been put out for public reading, in Spain. It will stop the hype and clear the air of speculation.

There is a theory that Harry is being pushed to say all these things as fodder for a divorce. How could any woman be expected to remain with such a weak hysterical man? The divorce laws in Florida also favour the women if there’s any money left!

I feel sorry for the Wales children, especially George and Charlotte who will probably have to contend with comments at school.

In the opening chapter of his book, Harry comments rather bitchily on Williams baldness.

How bloody childish.

Millions of people suffer terrible trauma in their childhood years, whether that's parental bereavement, abuse or poverty but most of them, through counselling and mental health support, manage to come to terms with it and carry on with their life. But some, like Harry, cleave to their trauma, they allow it to define them and it becomes who and what they are. In his eyes, he's a perpetual victim. It's been proven that he and Megan have been prepared to lie, embellish and fabricate stories in the past and I doubt that this latest expose is any different. He's a manipulator.

My further take on things (and I said this at the time - it’s not hindsight), is that the cracks started to show between Harry and William at the time of the Rose Hanbury rumours.

I think that Harry didn’t approve of William treating Catherine shabbily. I think that he was angry, especially in the light of his mother and father’s relationship(s).

If you remember, Harry and Kate always seemed so close.
When you saw the three of them together it was William who looked the spare part.

I think that Harry took the side of Kate, and it didn’t suit her or William in the end.

(That’s just my slightly informed view with a big dollop of amateur psychology.
There’s no need to point out that ‘we don’t know anything’)

I'm not saying people (including me) are not sometimes gullible. It's just not very nice to call them gullible. You might think 'blimey that's a bit gullible' but you don't have to say so. I have met people who I think are silly, daft, idiotic or downright stupid but I'd never tell them I thought they were. Anyway sorry to sidetrack the thread.

My quote function is failing me.

Last word I can assure you that many bruises and black eyes can not be fully concealed with make up. I'm sure many a battered wife/husband/partner will attest to that. No matter how brilliant you are when working in theatre productions.

As for Harry and his book, nobody will need to buy it. It looks as if the Daily Mail has printed the whole thing.

It's awful. The whole thing is awful.

I feel very sorry for H&M's children. They won't be tiny tots forever and this is all out there, forever in print and online.

My it is not comment was not directed at you!

It is not.

Forsythia

The Sun also has it apparently, from Spain.

So has the DM.

My daughter works in theatre / wardrobe and makeup - it is definitely possible to easily cover up bruises or even cuts / scars.

Honestly, both boys have done military service, trained at Sandhurst and H has done 2 tours in Afghanistan - and he is complaining about being pushed / hit by his brother . I am very surprised he has stooped to this childish low (in my opinion) and I think he may very well have shot himself in the foot with this. Lots of complaining but no responsibility taken. I for one am glad he's a "spare" and will never make the throne. Again a personal opinion.

Forsythia

The Sun also has it apparently, from Spain.

Did they put a journalist on a plane this morning to fetch it!!

The Sun also has it apparently, from Spain.

(I’m not in Spain btw, sorry if that was misleading)

mokryna

It seems you can already buy the book in Spain. I am not buying it in any language but is there any one in Spain?

Yes! Hello have got hold of it. How strange
www.hellomagazine.com/royalty/20230105160999/prince-harry-book-spare-available-to-buy-spain-mistake/?viewas=amp

Actually I've had black eyes and bruises in the past. I know about attempting to cover with make up. With help from professionals

I get the impression that he was not at all interested in being King, but rather wasn’t so keen on being seen as inferior to his brother and having to treat him as his superior.
Especially as the men got older and relationships more complex

It seems you can already buy the book in Spain. I am not buying it in any language but is there any one in Spain?

Just watched the lunchtime news. It seems that the journalist for the Guardian’s US part, the one who has seen (and I suppose read) the leaked book, says that the over riding theme is Harry’s resentment at being ‘the spare’.

I distinctly remember Harry being interviewed after the birth of either George or Charlotte, and he was asked how he felt about going one step further away from the line of succession. His reply was that he was thrilled about it, and he seemed genuinely pleased that the arrival of William’s children meant that his role was not so important, as such.

Seems to me that it’s mainly since Meghan’s arrival that being ‘the spare’ has caused him such heartache. He certainly didn’t appear to be bothered by it before that.