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Breaking News. an armed 'met' policer officer. guilty of rapes

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lemsip Mon 16-Jan-23 12:24:12

A Met Police diplomatic protection officer today admitted to being a serial sex attacker guilty of 24 rapes over nearly 20 years serving with the force.

David Carrick, 48, who was known to his colleagues as 'Bastard Dave' pleaded guilty to a total of 49 offences against 12 women between 2003 and 2020.

The Met has apologised to victims after it emerged Carrick came to the attention of police over nine incidents including allegations of rape, domestic violence, and harassment between 2000 and 2021.

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Daftbag1 Thu 19-Jan-23 11:50:37

Sadly there will always be bad eggs in every group, it's not just the Met.
I remember when my son was 13. He is autistic and rarely went out, but on this particular day he had caught a bus into a market town near us.

Unfortunately he does look a bit odd and stands out in a crowd, and a small group of lads, stole his phone.

He did the sensible thing and went home and the police were called. They turned up and seemed very understanding, until one of the officers told him 'next time you are approached give them a Glasgow kiss'! So sensible, but worse was to come the officer went on to recount stories of racism and violence perpetrated by him as a police officer.
Not rape but just goes to showhow the bad eggs use their position

Fleurpepper Thu 19-Jan-23 11:39:58

Foghorn, I am so sorry to hear that. It is just so awful. What is even worse, is that his colleagues probably laughed about it, said you 'had asked for it' - all big joke. You were so courageous to find the strength to walk away.

And that is the thing- the violence, misoginy, and so much worse, only perpetrated by a few- BUT protected by colleagues who either joked about it, or felt disgusted but that they had to keep stum for fear of being ostracised or bullied.

If you know it is happening, and do nothing- you are aiding and abetting- and have to take some of the guilt.

dragonfly46 Thu 19-Jan-23 11:38:33

Foghorn that is horrendous. I am so sorry you had to suffer that.
I hope the current chief will weed all these evil officers out. I rather think it will not happen.

Maybe disbanding the Met is the way to go to make for smaller more manageable forces.

Treetops05 Thu 19-Jan-23 11:37:24

Sadly it isn't just the MET., We previously lived in Worcestershire and Gloucestershire and both counties had active and retired officers imprisoned for all types of sexual offences. Overview needs to be all encompassing throughout the regions.

Jess20 Thu 19-Jan-23 11:22:20

Perhaps it's cynical to wonder, but is it possible these sorts of officer are transferred to the diplomatic branch as a way of getting them out of a role with frequent face to face contact with the public? In many walks of life I've seen a bad attitude rewarded with a different or less public role in order to stop streams of complaints about them. The 'institution' has the knowledge of the bad behaviour but fails to eject the perpetrators for many reasons, certainly happens in religious institutions and I've seen similar elsewhere.

LauraNorderr Wed 18-Jan-23 18:33:41

FoghornLeghorn flowers for your bravery.

Callistemon21 Wed 18-Jan-23 18:32:17

If such a culture is allowed to exist and not stamped out firmly, it can take hold, others are frightened to speak out and that is how corruption prevails.

Callistemon21 Wed 18-Jan-23 18:29:34

Shocking, FoghornLeghorn, you must have felt as if you had nowhere to turn.
Well done for getting out of that horrendous situation.

Iam64 Wed 18-Jan-23 18:20:15

Awful for you foghorn, you were courageous to get out.
Most of the police I worked with were good. My dad joined Lancashire in 1949. He was moved into GMP in the late sixties /early seventies when boundaries were redrawn. He was initially bath reluctant and unhappy because he said met police areas were all corrupt. It worked well fir him in the end but he was always critical of the met

Callistemon21 Wed 18-Jan-23 17:47:18

LauraNorderr

Whistleblower, grass, turncoat, blackleg, snitch, telltale, traitor, stirrer, trouble maker.
Just a few of the words that should not be in the vocabulary.

Watkinson, who had potential access to schools
He's been found dead.

Oh, what next.

Whistleblower, grass, turncoat, blackleg, snitch, telltale, traitor, stirrer, trouble maker
Any officer wanting to speak out is accused of being one of the above, being frightened and bullied into keeping quiet.

The Force is not fit for purpose, it's rotten and corrupt and should be disbanded.

growstuff Wed 18-Jan-23 16:47:29

And now this:

www.lbc.co.uk/news/senior-met-police-officer-accused-of-having-a-secret-room-full-of-child-porn-and/

25Avalon Wed 18-Jan-23 16:32:53

Apparently one of the women imprisoned by Garrick escaped to a woman’s refuge but they wouldn’t pursue it because he was a police officer and no one would believe it. She has now come forward with her story.

LauraNorderr Wed 18-Jan-23 16:22:40

The above are words that children use which allows bullies to prevail at an early age.

LauraNorderr Wed 18-Jan-23 16:21:17

Whistleblower, grass, turncoat, blackleg, snitch, telltale, traitor, stirrer, trouble maker.
Just a few of the words that should not be in the vocabulary.

sodapop Wed 18-Jan-23 16:00:46

That's awful FoghornLeghorn it must have taken great courage to leave, well done.

One of the dreadful things about all this is the complacency and entitlement amongst colleagues and even superior officers Oreo definitely some sort of monitoring would be a good thing.

Oreo Wed 18-Jan-23 14:57:02

FoghornLeghorn 😲that’s just horrendous.
The Met has a long history of misogyny and corruption among it’s officers.Don’t know what the answer is without firing half the staff! Training of course but also regular check ups by appointed staff to monitor things?

AGAA4 Wed 18-Jan-23 14:38:03

FoghornLeghorn

I was married to a Met Police officer. He physically, mentally and sexually abused me for six years until I was brave enough to leave. His colleagues knew. They were called to my house several times.

This made me angry. No woman should have to endure this treatment and the fact that colleagues looked on and did nothing is appalling.

FoghornLeghorn Wed 18-Jan-23 14:34:19

I was married to a Met Police officer. He physically, mentally and sexually abused me for six years until I was brave enough to leave. His colleagues knew. They were called to my house several times.

Wyllow3 Wed 18-Jan-23 14:25:43

25Avalon

Name and shame officers who let Garrick stay in his job says Mina Smallman whose two daughters were murdered in a London Park. She now campaigns for women’s safety. The police watchdog says it will not be investigating any officers or staff. Surely all involved should be answerable?

Hear hear.

I also want to see details of training plans that will facilitate change. Training that brings in police women and policemen of colour who can speak of their experiences: training that brings in abuse survivors: training that discusses different ways of bonding (since in a police force you need close supportive colleague relationships, but not those based on a locker room mentality.)

Training that shames officers who have passively participated, make them think :if it were my sister, my mum, my wife, how would I feel then?

Training that discusses uncovers ways that men bond when its sexist and racist, offers alternatives.

Callistemon21 Wed 18-Jan-23 12:48:22

The police watchdog says it will not be investigating any officers or staff

What? 😲

25Avalon Wed 18-Jan-23 11:28:34

Name and shame officers who let Garrick stay in his job says Mina Smallman whose two daughters were murdered in a London Park. She now campaigns for women’s safety. The police watchdog says it will not be investigating any officers or staff. Surely all involved should be answerable?

M0nica Wed 18-Jan-23 00:44:06

My grandmother was born and brought up in Bermondsey in thelate 19th early 20th century. She had nothing but contempt and distrust for the metropolitan police even then.

She was Irish and worked with her parish priest to help to secure the release from police cells of young boys picked up by the police for the most trivial of offences and treated appallingly while in police cells.

Iam64 Tue 17-Jan-23 17:27:15

My father retired 2 years before the miners strike, after 33 years in the police. He was as disgusted by the behaviour of the met officers as he was by Scargill.

At his funeral about 10 years later, several of his former colleagues talked about the damage caused to relations between the public and police caused by the met police behaviour. That generation had all fought in ww2. They identified with the miners as hard working men. One commented he felt it would take a generation or more for trust in the police in former mining areas to be re-established.

Farzanah Tue 17-Jan-23 17:11:39

AGAA4

The problems in the Met have been there for a long time. My DH was a policeman who was at the miners strike. Many forces were called in and were appalled by the behaviour of some met officers.
It was in the papers about their arrogance setting back relationships with the police.

This post could have been written by me AGAA4. My OH was also a police officer during the miners strike, and his force contingent dreaded the Met coming up because of the trouble they caused.

Blinko Tue 17-Jan-23 16:12:54

fancythat

HousePlantQueen

MerylStreep

The Met has always been rotten to the core. The only difference now,is, it’s getting more difficult to cover it up.

My late father was an officer in the Met and I deeply resent your comment

I wasnt too chuffed either.
I used to have a relative in it. He has never been known to bring harm to anyone whatsoever.

Monsters like Couzens and Carrick and their ilk bring the whole force into disrepute. But are they only known to others like themselves? Is there no mechanism for decent officers to call out this behaviour when they realise what’s going on?