Gransnet forums

News & politics

Business collapses with implications for 750,000 jobs

(70 Posts)
volver Wed 18-Jan-23 09:33:36

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64303149

This company was going to make batteries for electric cars in the UK. It has now collapsed as it seems to have been an unsustainable business in the first place. We now have only one battery factory in the UK, and there are dozens in the rest of Europe.

It takes 5 years from start up to production, and there are no other likely candidates. In 7 years petrol and diesel cars will not be marketed any more. Electric car manufacturers will locate their factories near the factories where batteries are built, and that won't be in the UK.

So farewell to our motor industry.

Georgesgran Wed 18-Jan-23 09:37:18

I haven’t followed this closely, but it appeared to be a lifeline for jobs close to a ‘depressed’ area.

Redhead56 Wed 18-Jan-23 09:51:07

I saw the report about this last night and my first thought was so this is more production work that will probably end up going abroad. This would have been a great opportunity for the economy in this country. We have the land the resources people needing work but it looks like we are going to rely on more imports.

eazybee Wed 18-Jan-23 10:18:40

It also highlights the imposition of unrealistic targets to be met about electric cars by 2030 without first attending to the supporting infrastructure.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 18-Jan-23 10:19:59

It absolutely does, eazybee.

lixy Wed 18-Jan-23 10:24:51

This is so disappointing - so much for the 'levelling -up' agenda.

There did seem to be some optimism that another investor will be found when I saw this on the BBC news last night, but it seems a bit of a forlorn hope to me.

MawtheMerrier Wed 18-Jan-23 10:25:27

Dreadful news and clearly there are/will be a knock on effect - but 750,000 jobs ?

UK battery start-up Britishvolt has collapsed into administration, with the majority of its 232 staff made redundant with immediate effect
Plans for the £3.8bn factory in Blyth were part of a long-term vision to boost UK manufacturing of electric vehicle batteries and create around 3,000 skilled jobs

I’m sure you’ll tell me what I am missing!

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 18-Jan-23 10:29:25

Is this one for the ‘exaggerating’ thread?

volver Wed 18-Jan-23 10:35:19

I’m sure you’ll tell me what I am missing

The entire British motor industry. Details in the OP.

I actually undershot - there are 800,000 people employed in that industry

volver Wed 18-Jan-23 10:37:38

eazybee

It also highlights the imposition of unrealistic targets to be met about electric cars by 2030 without first attending to the supporting infrastructure.

The infrastructure exists - it just won't be in the UK.

Germanshepherdsmum Wed 18-Jan-23 10:39:59

Ah, now I understand - you’re talking about implications for 800,000 jobs in 2030? Sorry, slow on the uptake. As Harry said, a lot can happen between now and then.

volver Wed 18-Jan-23 10:42:00

👍🏼

Implications. As I said in the title. 800,000 employed in that industry right now, whose futures have just become significantly less secure.

Jaxjacky Wed 18-Jan-23 10:53:21

From what I’ve read Britishvolt did not achieve the milestones agreed to trigger government funding.
I’m hoping another investor might reçue it, Tata possibly.

Jaxjacky Wed 18-Jan-23 10:53:36

Rescue.

Jaxjacky Wed 18-Jan-23 11:28:49

I’ve just seen this about a new factory.
news.sky.com/story/advanced-battery-plant-in-oxfordshire-to-be-opened-later-this-year-creating-up-to-300-new-jobs-12789274

volver Wed 18-Jan-23 11:34:58

That's good news. 👍🏼

Georgesgran Wed 18-Jan-23 11:38:31

It is good news, but at the risk of sounding ‘arsey’ it’s up here in the North East where jobs are desperately needed. Of course with HS2 only going as far as Leeds, we are again forgotten.

Siope Wed 18-Jan-23 11:40:55

The implications surely reach beyond the motor industry, and into all the businesses, that are dependant on spending by motor companies and by their employees. And then that ripples out to lower local taxes, poorer public services, with fewer public servants, reducing economic activity still further.

Siope Wed 18-Jan-23 11:41:55

And in the time I took to the, what I wrote is at least partially negated!

volver Wed 18-Jan-23 11:44:22

Georgesgran

It is good news, but at the risk of sounding ‘arsey’ it’s up here in the North East where jobs are desperately needed. Of course with HS2 only going as far as Leeds, we are again forgotten.

Agreed Georgesgran.

MaizieD Wed 18-Jan-23 13:03:56

Siope

And in the time I took to the, what I wrote is at least partially negated!

I don't think that what you wrote was even partially negated. One new battery factory isn't going to be able to supply the entire UK motor industry.

And your analysis of the economic consequences looked pretty good to me grin

I don't know all the details of what went wrong, but surely, if the business is actually viable, this is a case for some state investment. State money is as good as anyone else's for driving the economy.

MayBee70 Wed 18-Jan-23 16:21:44

Yet again we are going to find ourselves reliant on other countries for something quite basic. With the threat of China invading Taiwan we may find ourselves without important technical stuff ( I’m not very knowledgeable about thing like that, I assume it’s chips and stuff?) but a British company that was planning to manufacture such things didn’t get the backing they needed. Will the government ever learn?

Siope Wed 18-Jan-23 16:35:02

Thank you, Maizie. And of course you’re right that one factory isn’t enough, but hopefully, it will provide a sustainable, replicable model.

25Avalon Wed 18-Jan-23 16:37:24

Some Australian millionaire is said to be interested in setting up battery factory in UK. I think it was on Sky.

volver Wed 18-Jan-23 16:38:57

I think that's the Oxfordshire factory mentioned above.