Rishi Sunak not wearing a seatbelt.

I'm horrified at how many people on here think that someone as prominent as the Prime Minister not wearing a seatbelt, and being filmed not wearing it, is trivial. The horrible advert about the unrestrained boy killing his mother by being thrown forward when the car stopped has already been mentioned. How many of you who take it so lightly have spent time removing bits of windscreen glass from the face of someone who has broken the glass with that face? I can assure you that it is no fun to do, and even less fun to have it done.

Yammy

Am I being spiteful, or am I not understanding? How do you know what my understanding is, that's your opinion because I don't agree with your ideas.
I think I am pointing out that we all make mistakes. Hopefully, we all learn from them, never make them again and take the consequences of our actions seriously.

This is not about "ideas". Laws are facts, not something we can choose to obey or not as the mood takes us.

We do all make mistakes, but this was not a mistake. Sunak must be aware of the law even if you are not. If you aren't you will find ignorance of the law is no defence.

Sunak is supposed to be someone who would know these things and vowed not to follow the Johnson style of "honesty". He stood up and described himself as one of the people you call "sanctimonious".

He painted himself as someone who would do the right thing. He didn't. He has no one to blame but himself if people point out that he said one thing and did another.

It’s not going to go away -certainly not! When anyone commits a crime and is punished for it, however large or small, their sins should be paraded in public for others to relish and gloat over ad infinitum.
Long live Sunak’s vilification!
Except it distracts from other more important things in politics at the moment and suggests that this is the worst thing he has done.

Given I can't understand how it happened as I never remove my seatbelt, he apologised and paid a fine. Should be done.

When is enough enough?

Yammy

Gillycats

The world is in crisis, economic problems, war, on the verge of environmental disaster and people are banging on about this. He admitted it and paid the fine, all within 24 hours. Meantime my husband was assaulted almost 3 weeks ago and is still waiting to talk to the police about it. Talk about blown out of all proportion!

I am so sorry for you Gillycats. I hope your husband is feeling better and the Police come soon and take all the details.
I agree with you we should all forget about the seat belt incident and take the wider picture of what is happening in our own country and the world.
Some people on here just like to have their own opinions shown to be right and I don't see why they should be allowed to.
I know I have argued back about why shouldn't I ? Someone at the beginning said it all should be forgotten and I agreed with them.

It’s not going to go away Yammy. It’s not just ‘people on here’ you know. This is from BBC News.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64358636

Gillycats

The world is in crisis, economic problems, war, on the verge of environmental disaster and people are banging on about this. He admitted it and paid the fine, all within 24 hours. Meantime my husband was assaulted almost 3 weeks ago and is still waiting to talk to the police about it. Talk about blown out of all proportion!

I am so sorry for you Gillycats. I hope your husband is feeling better and the Police come soon and take all the details.
I agree with you we should all forget about the seat belt incident and take the wider picture of what is happening in our own country and the world.
Some people on here just like to have their own opinions shown to be right and I don't see why they should be allowed to.
I know I have argued back about why shouldn't I ? Someone at the beginning said it all should be forgotten and I agreed with them.

The world is in crisis, economic problems, war, on the verge of environmental disaster and people are banging on about this. He admitted it and paid the fine, all within 24 hours. Meantime my husband was assaulted almost 3 weeks ago and is still waiting to talk to the police about it. Talk about blown out of all proportion!

Partygate was so different, because those people had asked the rest of the population to make huge sacrifices- not seeing loved ones, not holding the hand of dying parents or spouses, not attending funerals, being cut off from family and friends. So so different.

VEry different. But honestly, let's choose our battles and there are so many truly massive ones. This one is just hiding those that matter, and that is such a waste of time and energy.

MaizieD

This is like partygate all over again on here.

'It was only a piece of cake'

'I bet everyone broke the lockdown laws'

'He's been fined and apologised'

Then a bit of 'whataboutery....

I don’t think it’s like partygate. That was full of denials.
What exactly do you want?
He’s been punished.
What else would you like to happen MaizieD?

This is like partygate all over again on here.

'It was only a piece of cake'

'I bet everyone broke the lockdown laws'

'He's been fined and apologised'

Then a bit of 'whataboutery....

Yammy

Casdon

Yammy

Am I being spiteful, or am I not understanding? How do you know what my understanding is, that's your opinion because I don't agree with your ideas.
I think I am pointing out that we all make mistakes. Hopefully, we all learn from them, never make them again and take the consequences of our actions seriously.

Some people just make more silly mistakes than others Yammy, don’t they? This is the first time any Prime Minister has broken the law twice and been caught out and fined. At best, that is very careless indeed.

Only because others were too underhand to be caught.

That’s not logical, is it? In the event that people were underhand they were doing things deliberately, not making stupid mistakes. You can’t have it both ways.

Two wrongs never make a right.
He made a mistake, he was fined.
Continually pointing out a mistake that someone has already been punished for or reiterating that someone has made two mistakes is up to your own personal choice of action.

Casdon

Yammy

Am I being spiteful, or am I not understanding? How do you know what my understanding is, that's your opinion because I don't agree with your ideas.
I think I am pointing out that we all make mistakes. Hopefully, we all learn from them, never make them again and take the consequences of our actions seriously.

Some people just make more silly mistakes than others Yammy, don’t they? This is the first time any Prime Minister has broken the law twice and been caught out and fined. At best, that is very careless indeed.

Only because others were too underhand to be caught.

Yammy

Am I being spiteful, or am I not understanding? How do you know what my understanding is, that's your opinion because I don't agree with your ideas.
I think I am pointing out that we all make mistakes. Hopefully, we all learn from them, never make them again and take the consequences of our actions seriously.

Some people just make more silly mistakes than others Yammy, don’t they? This is the first time any Prime Minister has broken the law twice and been caught out and fined. At best, that is very careless indeed.

Am I being spiteful, or am I not understanding? How do you know what my understanding is, that's your opinion because I don't agree with your ideas.
I think I am pointing out that we all make mistakes. Hopefully, we all learn from them, never make them again and take the consequences of our actions seriously.

Yammy

fancythat

VioletSky

He has been fined

He was one of those fined for breaking lock down rules right?

Not the best example to set

Makes him look careless.
Not a good look for a PM.

So did Tony Blair when he forgot to tell a whole nation that Saddam's weapons of mass destruction had not been verified.
Never mind his actions led to thousands being killed and a country in ruin with no infra structure, he probably remembered to use his seat belt.

Now you are trying to say two wrongs make a right. They never did. In this case whatever happened in the past is no justification for Sunak breaking the law. How do you make out that it can be?

He broke the law. Nothing justifies it and he was fined as anyone else would be. Why can't you understand that?

Then they give you one of those disks that no longer fit the slot because they have upgraded the trolleys and forgotten the slots
😂

They'll become collectors' items and worth a fortune one day.
As will supermarket trolleys.

Yammy

growstuff

Yammy

Ilovecheese

He has done a lot worse things than this.

Haven't we all done it at some time if we admit it? I once dropped an animal off at the vet to be Put down . When we got home neither my DD nor myself had put our seat belts on, we were too upset thinking of the animal. I have also been to funerals where people have got out of the back of cars when it was obvious they had not fastened their seat belts. Their mind wasn't on their own safety.
So he's made a mistake he'll pay the fine and make sure he hopefully doesn't do it again. Many of us know people have been fined for speeding paid to watch the film and gone on to do it again. Human is the word that comes to mind.
He just needs to learn a lesson.

No, I don't think I have.

I passed my driving test over 50 years ago and I wore a seatbelt from the beginning. I've always insisted front seat passengers wear one - and back seat ones too since it became the law.

I hope your complementary halo has arrived. Never done anything wrong in 50 years of driving who are you trying to Kidd think harder?

So you think everyone, like you, breaks laws. It simply isn't true. All growstuff is doing is obeying the law. The vast majority do that.

growstuff did not say she had Never done anything wrong. Why the need for spite because someone choses not to break laws? Do you think you are the better person for doing so? I have no wish to be a criminal and it seems growstuff doesn't either.

I wonder why you do Yammy?

fancythat

VioletSky

He has been fined

He was one of those fined for breaking lock down rules right?

Not the best example to set

Makes him look careless.
Not a good look for a PM.

So did Tony Blair when he forgot to tell a whole nation that Saddam's weapons of mass destruction had not been verified.
Never mind his actions led to thousands being killed and a country in ruin with no infra structure, he probably remembered to use his seat belt.

growstuff

Yammy

Ilovecheese

He has done a lot worse things than this.

Haven't we all done it at some time if we admit it? I once dropped an animal off at the vet to be Put down . When we got home neither my DD nor myself had put our seat belts on, we were too upset thinking of the animal. I have also been to funerals where people have got out of the back of cars when it was obvious they had not fastened their seat belts. Their mind wasn't on their own safety.
So he's made a mistake he'll pay the fine and make sure he hopefully doesn't do it again. Many of us know people have been fined for speeding paid to watch the film and gone on to do it again. Human is the word that comes to mind.
He just needs to learn a lesson.

No, I don't think I have.

I passed my driving test over 50 years ago and I wore a seatbelt from the beginning. I've always insisted front seat passengers wear one - and back seat ones too since it became the law.

I hope your complementary halo has arrived. Never done anything wrong in 50 years of driving who are you trying to Kidd think harder?

Callistemon21

Yammy

One swallow never made a flock, all these sanctimonious comments people need to think hard about the times they have either inadvertently or on purpose broken the law . Had a parking ticket passed to them instead of buying a new ticket? Kept the pound in the trolley when someone left it?I could go on. Yes, it was dangerous for him and others and he has paid his fine.

Whenever has keeping a trolley pound endangered anyone?

I'd put it in the charity box but then I tend to be sanctimonious.

Had a parking ticket passed to them instead of buying a new ticket? You have to key in your car number which is printed on the ticket 🤔

You don't have to key in your car reg in a lot of car parks where I live.
Instead of looking for a charity box why not just take it to the reception desk in the Supermarket as I have. Then they give you one of those disks that no longer fit the slot because they have upgraded the trolleys and forgotten the slots.

I can only think that Alsorts mind is clouded by her political bias. The laws are there for a purpose. Perhaps she also believes only the speeding driver is at risk when they break the law. Maybe M0nica would also tell us that "most people do that".

Why have laws if it's okay to break them as long as you are rich, feel superior and, it appears, are biased towards Conservatism?

Allsorts,mi worry about what he’s saying, about his politics, That doesn’t stop me concluding he was wrong not to be wearing a seat belt. We all know they save lives. We need to protect our emergency services and wearing seat belts is part of that.

Allsorts

What a fuss. He wasn’t driving! . If anyone was at risk it would have been him. Worry about what he’s saying.

I wasn't driving Allsorts. Have you watched Callistemon's Youtube link? If not I will repeat it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKHY69AFstE You need to watch it for the sake of others.