Davos and Greta Thunberg

Actually I haven’t revolted since the March against you British invading the Middle East under that perfectly divine PM you had, Tony Blair.

MerylStreep

nanna8

Revolting little girl in every sense.

Sending that right back to you, revolting adult.

Thank you darling.

Probably means terawatt TWh which is one million megawatts MWh

I didn't say that about scientists Volver, I'm interested in your input, I'm not being sarcastic, you almost certainly know more about all of this than me. you say "whatever you think I'd rather they were meeting than developing little individual plans that only are looking at the concerns of one country" I think that's exactly how some countries come across, in spite of what they would like to say to the contrary I think their own national interests are often at the fore.

Just checking thought you didn’t know

Tera

10^12. Not "earthly"

Accuracy at all times.

volver

^A nod to accuracy.^ 🤣

Can your humble engineer son explain what a TkWhr is?

Sorry Terribull, but "really good scientists" stand up for themselves. I'll try to do better on the "diverting" front...

Terra kilowatt hour
Just the units my data came in

A nod to accuracy. 🤣

Can your humble engineer son explain what a TkWhr is?

Sorry Terribull, but "really good scientists" stand up for themselves. I'll try to do better on the "diverting" front...

Volver a really good scientist has just a touch of humility. And some nod to accuracy.

One of my sons works in a safety critical engineering role and he’s truly humble.

I’m not addressing anyone here but I do think the majority of mankind don’t / can’t fully grasp what is coming down the line.
This article is 4 years old. Think how the problem has escalated in 4 years.

www.brookings.edu/research/the-climate-crisis-migration-and-refugees/

I tend to go all religious-speak and proclaim that the devil is now fully visible and has been prominent at Davos.

Whatever you think of that, I'd rather they were meeting than developing little individual plans that only look at the concerns of one country
Yes, good point.

However, I still wonder how open they are about their aims and how secretive and powerful some are.

www.theguardian.com/business/2023/jan/18/mutiny-erupts-among-wef-staff-over-role-of-mr-davos-klaus-schwab

MerylStreep

If you’ve got time, read and weep.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/30/50-years-25-cops-the-slow-motion-movement-to-save-the-planet

50 yrs and achieved nothing, just broken promises because really nobody really wants to do anything.

Oops - cross post.

Very cross.

Davos meetings have been taking place since 1971. It's the World Economic Forum. Climate change is one part of what they discuss.

Whatever you think of that, I'd rather they were meeting than developing little individual plans that only look at the concerns of one country.

But I agree with Greta that the people that we are relying on to solve climate change are the ones with the vested interests in things that make climate change worse.

(And please ignore the next bit, but I can't help it - people with PhDs in the subject of renewable energy sources don't need to be told by people who know how to google that they should look things up on Our World in Data. I know, I shouldn't let it bother me. Yet here we are...)

Volver hope you don’t mind me asking but do you work in a safety critical environment or maybe just a sort of academic?

It's the meetings in side rooms, meetings in hotel rooms that are more questionable.
Climate change slipped further down the agenda, apparently.

What will be the outcome of this Forum?
What is the point?

I am rather cynical about their aims and I think Greta tried to highlight the main issue of our times to those who have so much control.

volver

Personally, I don't need to look anything up. Some of us just know stuff 😉

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

If you’ve got time, read and weep.

www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/30/50-years-25-cops-the-slow-motion-movement-to-save-the-planet

To go back to my OP, does Greta have a point? I think she does, I think she has tapped into the mindset of some, who are aware of these annual jamborees may perceive about them. Quite apart from the fact that carbon emissions quadrupled when the private jets fly in delegates to the 2023 first annual economic forum, the first since 2020, what exactly does this talking shop achieve.?

I must admit that I was vaguely aware of Davos in a very uninterested way until I read about Dutch historian, Rutger Bregman, who blasted addressed Davos in 2019 with "Taxes, taxes, taxes all the rest is bullshit in my opinion, stop talking about philanthropy and start talking taxes" and good for him, but to slip into the vernacular was he not stating "the bleedin' obvious?". My brain doesn't understand the complexities of how large corporations , some with clearly dubious ethics are allowed to pay so little tax, so a big yes to Greta's assertion "they are prioritising self greed, short term economic profits above people and above the planet" and please someone explain to me why is there not a multi lateral drive to make global corporations to pay their fair whack?

Klaus Schwabb founder of the WEF has I believe, a vision for a united global world, but surely corporations, individuals who don't contribute what they should in taxation have no interest in a global greater good and that could also apply to those countries who the are major contributors to carbon emissions and are clearly not doing enough about that, so why do they even bother upping their emissions to a greater degree to fly their people in to Davos, just to pay lip service, what's the point?

CNN Business quotes Rana Foroohar columnist with the Financial Times "I think Davos is totally irrelevant" she has written a book where she argues "that a new shift towards localisation is displacing the "forces of globalisation that have been dominant over the past half century"

Apparently the theme this year is "Co-operation in a Fragmented World" How can that be achieved when in the last 12 months Russia has invaded Ukraine and tensions between the US and China are ramping up and supply chains are having to be reassessed?

I'm not worried about Greta, if nothing else I perceive her as non duplicitous and sincere which is more than I would say about a lot of the hot air generated by a toothless organisation that doesn't seem to deliver anything worthwhile.

To get back to the OP after that diversion - Greta is right in that we should all perhaps take a closer look at some of the people who are attending this conference, who are they and what are their vested interests?
Yes, some may be altruistic but are they all?

volver

She is autistic and doesn't need some anonymous poster on GN wondering about her "mental stability".

We don’t need an autistic 20 year old taking over the World Economic Forum and closing down your energy systems. If Greta is standing in the public arena, then she must expect the public to respond.

I remain concerned for her well being however.

I dismay at who knock climate protesters and mock Greta Thunberg.

Sorry Meryl I meant the comments about Greta not your post.

That's very good MerylStreep 👍

There's a lot of it about. 😉