Does anyone believe Nadhim Zahawi?

Petera

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

Yes, what he said was that a penalty could be imposed for not taking reasonable care, "careless errors" and "innocent errors are two different things. "

and deliberate 'errors' yet another!

Petera

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

Yes, what he said was that a penalty could be imposed for not taking reasonable care, "careless errors" and "innocent errors are two different things. "

Being 'careless' in tax inspector terms is failing to take the care that any reasonable person would take. Apparently...

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

They did not believe it was an “innocent” error, a wealthy businessman and polititian would be hardly likely to overlook a transaction of that size even if it was tucked away offshore.

It’s the usual HMRC tactic slap a penalty on, they can appeal if they think it’s unfair

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

Yes, what he said was that a penalty could be imposed for not taking reasonable care, "careless errors" and "innocent errors are two different things. "

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

but his errors were not innocent, so not relevant!

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Sunak is reported to be 'livid' about the whole sorry affair.

I doubt that NZ actually sits down and sorts out his own taxes. He will have a whole bunch of people doing it for him so he'll probably have a 'fall guy' somewhere. There is no such thing as an honest politican.

Wheniwasyourage

M0nica Also, one end kicks and the other end bites. (I do like horses, just don't often associate with them!)

They honestly don't do either unless they've been really badly treated or handled at some time.

M0nica Also, one end kicks and the other end bites. (I do like horses, just don't often associate with them!)

I know two things about a horse and one of them is rather coarse.

Ah well since we have gone completely and totally off piste.

I sincerely believe that pets or animals should only be kept suitable for local conditions, to live as natural and normal a life as possible. No St Bernard's in Mexico, or naked cats in the Alps, for me!

MaizieD

I know this is completely off topic, but we used to have a local establishment which dealt with bringing on Thoroughbred yearlings prior to their sale for racing, and with TB mares and foals. The mares and foals (worth £thousands) all wintered out without a rug in sight. It's owners, who think that because they are cold their horses must be cold, who pile the rugs on...

Horses for courses as the saying goes.

We had an Arab mare, who was cold 90% of the year at the same time as a friesan who was hot in mid winter.

Different breeds have different needs and a responsible knowledgeable owner will know this.

I know this is completely off topic, but we used to have a local establishment which dealt with bringing on Thoroughbred yearlings prior to their sale for racing, and with TB mares and foals. The mares and foals (worth £thousands) all wintered out without a rug in sight. It's owners, who think that because they are cold their horses must be cold, who pile the rugs on...

Katie59

Fleurpepper

Going off piste here- but do horses really need washing in very cold temps? Mud can just be brushed off. They need natural oils, etc under layer of fur to grow, to keep warm.

Owners clip their horses out then buy expensive rugs to keep them warm, even to the extent of 2 or 3 rugs, far too much.
The amount some owners spend on their horse pets is just amazing.

Our DD competed, our horses had to be clipped otherwise they overheat when exercised and competing.

Fleurpepper

Going off piste here- but do horses really need washing in very cold temps? Mud can just be brushed off. They need natural oils, etc under layer of fur to grow, to keep warm.

Owners clip their horses out then buy expensive rugs to keep them warm, even to the extent of 2 or 3 rugs, far too much.
The amount some owners spend on their horse pets is just amazing.

I’ll report more when I see it.

Carol Vorderman

Hello. Very busy filming this week but so much more information on ZAHAWI coming in re paid for dealings for oil companies in Iraq while he was an MP. Will report back ASAP

Going off piste here- but do horses really need washing in very cold temps? Mud can just be brushed off. They need natural oils, etc under layer of fur to grow, to keep warm.

GrannyGravy13

Katie59

Never heard of heating stables, horses like a cool fresh environment, it was probably a “careless” declaration

High end eventers and expensive race horses along with up-market livery yards have heated stables, shower stables and solariums to dry the horses after their showers.

At our hard we just put an extra rug on them when the temperature is really low.

I have a feeling that there were some staff living quarters involved, too.

...shower stables and solariums to dry the horses after their showers.

My DD just puts the hosepipe on hers.... then an ancient Thermatex rug to dry him off...

*hard should be *yard

Katie59

Never heard of heating stables, horses like a cool fresh environment, it was probably a “careless” declaration

High end eventers and expensive race horses along with up-market livery yards have heated stables, shower stables and solariums to dry the horses after their showers.

At our hard we just put an extra rug on them when the temperature is really low.

Never heard of heating stables, horses like a cool fresh environment, it was probably a “careless” declaration

Katie59

Maggieanne

Did I hear that there was something fishy about the planning of his property and that something shouldn't have been allowed?

The fishy part was that it has “Agricultural Use” restriction, which made it cheap because it was not mortgageable, so the livery business was established to satisfy planning and the Gibraltar loan paid for it.

And then he claimed the heating of those stables as personal expenses!!!

MayBee70

At least he pays more tax than Sunaks wife I suppose….

Sunak’s wife has given up her non dom status and pays tax in the UK.