Does anyone believe Nadhim Zahawi?

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GrannyGravy13

Katie59

Never heard of heating stables, horses like a cool fresh environment, it was probably a “careless” declaration

High end eventers and expensive race horses along with up-market livery yards have heated stables, shower stables and solariums to dry the horses after their showers.

At our hard we just put an extra rug on them when the temperature is really low.

I have a feeling that there were some staff living quarters involved, too.

...shower stables and solariums to dry the horses after their showers.

My DD just puts the hosepipe on hers.... then an ancient Thermatex rug to dry him off...

Going off piste here- but do horses really need washing in very cold temps? Mud can just be brushed off. They need natural oils, etc under layer of fur to grow, to keep warm.

I’ll report more when I see it.

Carol Vorderman

Hello. Very busy filming this week but so much more information on ZAHAWI coming in re paid for dealings for oil companies in Iraq while he was an MP. Will report back ASAP

Fleurpepper

Going off piste here- but do horses really need washing in very cold temps? Mud can just be brushed off. They need natural oils, etc under layer of fur to grow, to keep warm.

Owners clip their horses out then buy expensive rugs to keep them warm, even to the extent of 2 or 3 rugs, far too much.
The amount some owners spend on their horse pets is just amazing.

Katie59

Fleurpepper

Going off piste here- but do horses really need washing in very cold temps? Mud can just be brushed off. They need natural oils, etc under layer of fur to grow, to keep warm.

Owners clip their horses out then buy expensive rugs to keep them warm, even to the extent of 2 or 3 rugs, far too much.
The amount some owners spend on their horse pets is just amazing.

Our DD competed, our horses had to be clipped otherwise they overheat when exercised and competing.

I know this is completely off topic, but we used to have a local establishment which dealt with bringing on Thoroughbred yearlings prior to their sale for racing, and with TB mares and foals. The mares and foals (worth £thousands) all wintered out without a rug in sight. It's owners, who think that because they are cold their horses must be cold, who pile the rugs on...

MaizieD

I know this is completely off topic, but we used to have a local establishment which dealt with bringing on Thoroughbred yearlings prior to their sale for racing, and with TB mares and foals. The mares and foals (worth £thousands) all wintered out without a rug in sight. It's owners, who think that because they are cold their horses must be cold, who pile the rugs on...

Horses for courses as the saying goes.

We had an Arab mare, who was cold 90% of the year at the same time as a friesan who was hot in mid winter.

Different breeds have different needs and a responsible knowledgeable owner will know this.

Ah well since we have gone completely and totally off piste.

I sincerely believe that pets or animals should only be kept suitable for local conditions, to live as natural and normal a life as possible. No St Bernard's in Mexico, or naked cats in the Alps, for me!

I know two things about a horse and one of them is rather coarse.

M0nica Also, one end kicks and the other end bites. (I do like horses, just don't often associate with them!)

Wheniwasyourage

M0nica Also, one end kicks and the other end bites. (I do like horses, just don't often associate with them!)

They honestly don't do either unless they've been really badly treated or handled at some time.

I doubt that NZ actually sits down and sorts out his own taxes. He will have a whole bunch of people doing it for him so he'll probably have a 'fall guy' somewhere. There is no such thing as an honest politican.

Sunak is reported to be 'livid' about the whole sorry affair.

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

but his errors were not innocent, so not relevant!

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

Yes, what he said was that a penalty could be imposed for not taking reasonable care, "careless errors" and "innocent errors are two different things. "

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

They did not believe it was an “innocent” error, a wealthy businessman and polititian would be hardly likely to overlook a transaction of that size even if it was tucked away offshore.

It’s the usual HMRC tactic slap a penalty on, they can appeal if they think it’s unfair

Petera

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

Yes, what he said was that a penalty could be imposed for not taking reasonable care, "careless errors" and "innocent errors are two different things. "

Being 'careless' in tax inspector terms is failing to take the care that any reasonable person would take. Apparently...

Petera

25Avalon

Petera

"HMRC boss tells MPs ‘innocent errors’ are not penalised"

Then he went on to say there were careless errors which could be penalised. Not sure I understand all of this. So much conjecture.

Yes, what he said was that a penalty could be imposed for not taking reasonable care, "careless errors" and "innocent errors are two different things. "

and deliberate 'errors' yet another!

I have just been reminded that historically Inland Revenue would invite politicians and their spouses to review their tax returns.

This invitation was not extended to other mortals. My feeling is that politicians have always had preferential tax treatment which doubtless would have annoyed individual tax inspector who were obliged to stay silent.

Nothing new it seems.

Inspectors

Richard North writing in Turbulent Times online today is worth reading.

It just got extremely complicated.

ronib

I have just been reminded that historically Inland Revenue would invite politicians and their spouses to review their tax returns.

This invitation was not extended to other mortals. My feeling is that politicians have always had preferential tax treatment which doubtless would have annoyed individual tax inspector who were obliged to stay silent.

Nothing new it seems.

It’s not that long ago that you could go to your local tax office and they would help you fill in your tax declaration. Now everything is online, if you make an obvious mistake or it is greatly different from years before, the system will flag it up and they will query the tax return.
Unfortunately that does not pick up omitted transactions and can be several years before they are revealed.