Sometimes I am ashamed

Quote volver Tue 24-Jan-23 19:01:47
You can get married at 16 in Scotland.

And join the army.

And vote

And order a pint with your pie and chips

And end up with Nicola Sturgeon as your First Minister. .

And your point Mollygo?

Just to be objectionable?

volver

You can get married at 16 in Scotland.

And join the army.

And vote.

And order a pint with your pie and chips.

Yes you can. And you can go overseas and sign up with the Taliban.

The minimum age of marriage in England, Wales and Northern Ireland will be raised to 18 on 27th Februaary 2023
ww.gov.uk/government/news/implementation-of-the-marriage-and-civil-partnership-minimum-age-act-2022

you can get married and join the army at 16 in England too and you can also drink alcohol with a meal as long as someone over 18 is with you and buys it on your behalf

I'm not sure I'd want my 16 yo getting married and joining the army though, in all honesty

You can get married at 16 in Scotland.

And join the army.

And vote.

And order a pint with your pie and chips.

However sensible and mature I thought myself at 16. I can see very clearly that I was not experienced and knowledgeable enough to make any lifelong decisions at that age.

Actually, I think I realised it at the time. I was doing A level English and one of the books we were studying was Middlemarch, by George Elliott. This book is a study of marriages, about half a dozen of them and, at 16, I thought this a totally unsuitable book to study because it was dealing with matters about which we, the student body, had little or no knowledge.

Rereading the book many years later, my perspective and understanding of the book, made me realise how right my 16 year old judgement of my lack of information to judge was.

she wants out of England at any cost

We're not in England.

Might be appropriate to remember that while you're complaining about how another woman looks and slagging her off because you don't like her lips? Dear God, the lack of self awareness in some posters is astounding.

Nicola Sturgeon agrees that when it comes to sentencing young offenders consideration must be given to the fact the human brain is not fully mature until age 25. She thinks any 16 year old is fully able to make a lifelong judgement about transitioning, with no input from any professional or other adult. She doesn't think a 16 year old has the necessary judgement to decide to have a pint of beer in a pub. Hmmm.

Give thanks to N Sturgeon she has allowed this to happen, she actively promotes it and want the age of decision to be 16, those with sons know just how stupid that is, love my boys but half off them you wouldn’t trust to take the bins out sometimes.
She is a very bitter woman, it shows in her face and attitude, she wants out of England at any cost, looks permanently angry with those pinched lips. These protestors I wound think are employable elsewhere, why are they still in office? They have her back up that’s why. I think they all bullying misogynists. Don’t be ashamed Maw, Scotland is a lovely country with great people who don’t want this. These awful people should feel shame, it’s not about Scotland it’s about getting their way and think England will follow suit. If they try it there will be trouble , we don’t won’t it. I and others are fed up at being told what to think by these nutters.
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JaneJudge I am with you all the way.

Doodledog

I saw that Tweet, too, Terribull

Did you see JKR's response? 😂

There speaks a male!

They are all tarnished by action and/or inaction. I know so many women who are struggling to decide who to vote for because of this.

I don’t know if the backpedaling will start now, or if they’ll double down. One of Teresa May’s advisors has written an article saying that autogynephilia is responsible for much of what passes as ‘being in the wrong body’. That wouldn’t have happened a year ago, so it’s progress. He’s a Tory of course, so it’s a bit like snakes and ladders . Still, now it’s been said (in the Telegraph) others can say it too, so we’re maybe getting there. As an election gets closer I think more politicians will get off the fence. I really hope so.

The Tories are finished everywhere, that doesnt mean it wont damage parties that become involved in this issue. It tends to make parties look foolish or tends to drag them into safeguarding issues or hate speech issues.
As I say violent misogyny, plenty of examples of this time and time again.

TERF is a derogatory term used to silence natal born women

what is extreme about people wanting sex based laws to remain in place and why would that facilitate a groups murder?

This issue tends to be utterly damaging for any political party that gets involved in it, they maybe should have chatted to the Green party or the lib dems.

Who voted for the GRR bill in Scotland's Parliament:

9% of Conservative MSPs
90% of Labour
100% of Lib Dems
86% of SNP MSPs
100% of the Greens.

Its almost as if all the parties were agreed on this except the Tories. Wonder why that might be...? We'll see how it goes for them at the next Scottish Election I suppose...

Rosie51

Callistemon21

broadening the bandwidth of what it is to be a woman 😂😂😂
Rose51
And psychotherapist ?? 😂 if you didn't laugh you'd cry.

www.confer.uk.com/biogs/biog_drummond.html

I think you live in Wales? If you fancy seeing a private practice psychotherapist you could choose Alex

Oh thank you for the information, Rosie51 😄

We could share tips on how to remove facial hair.
I use tweezers myself.

If those politicians had asked any woman involved in this debate they could have pointed out that those type of placards are fairly common, die terfs is the most popular but they seem to be expanding their repertoire. Utter violent misogyny. The more this is seen the more people are going to say hold on a moment.
This issue tends to be utterly damaging for any political party that gets involved in it, they maybe should have chatted to the Green party or the lib dems.

Callistemon21

^broadening the bandwidth of what it is to be a woman^ 😂😂😂
Rose51
And psychotherapist ?? 😂 if you didn't laugh you'd cry.

www.confer.uk.com/biogs/biog_drummond.html

I think you live in Wales? If you fancy seeing a private practice psychotherapist you could choose Alex

broadening the bandwidth of what it is to be a woman 😂😂😂
Rose51
And psychotherapist ?? 😂 if you didn't laugh you'd cry.

I saw that Tweet, too, Terribull

Did you see JKR's response? 😂

TerriBull

Surgically transitioned woman, India Willoughby has stated on Twitter that she is more of a woman than JK Rowling will ever be Not sure how she works that one out and how she thinks she has the qualities to evaluate the woman like characteristics of a natal woman. JK Rowling has been through many stages of the female lived experiences, such as puberty, menstruation, childbirth and possibly the menopause, or the early stages of it. It's not all flicky hair, short skirts,manicured nails and wondering what on earth to wear every day. Oh and I
nearly forgot this essential snippet, last but not least, always be sure to remove leg hair fellow women, as I previously read India thinks that women who don't are disgusting, well that's told the rest of us!

Oh dear, better tell all the celebs who don't shave any more eg Julia Roberts, Cameron Diaz, Madonna, Drew Barrymore, Miley Cyrus, Kristen Stewart, Kelly Rowland, M'onique etc.

Keep up, India Willoughby.

Smileless2012

As far as I can see, no one's being persecuted for feeling they are trapped in the wrong body, but women are being persecuted for stating the biological fact that a man can't be a woman, and for voicing their concern that an intact male can access women's safe spaces by simply declaring that they 'feel' like a woman, and women have to accept them as such.

That’s it in a nutshell.

Rosie51

MayBee70 this prominent lesbian transwoman psychotherapist has not had surgery and doesn't take hormone therapy, but proclaims themselves female and ^broadening the bandwidth of what it is to be a woman^

You’d think he’d lose the beard wouldn't you? He looks ridiculous!!
Not a lesbian at all, how can he be? 😂😭do you laugh or cry?