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Sometimes I am ashamed

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MawtheMerrier Mon 23-Jan-23 09:05:02

Fully expecting to be shot down in flames, I never thought I would see the like and am nevertheless ashamed of the country of my birth.

Todays DT, but also Twitter, BBC News and others
POLICE have launched an investigation after placards calling for women to be decapitated were displayed at a pro-transgender rights rally attended by SNP politicians
MPs Alison Thewliss, Kirsten Oswald, Stewart McDonald and MSP Kaukab Stewart were pictured in front of a sign that said “decapitate terfs” next to an image of a guillotine at a protest in Glasgow on Saturday.
Another homemade sign appeared to call for terfs, an acronym for “trans exclusionary radical feminist” which is often used to describe women who do not believe males can become female, to be eaten.

I do not recognise “my” homeland Scotland sad

FarNorth Thu 26-Jan-23 01:53:00

He wants an easier time in jail and he wants access to women while he's there.

There's no point trying to look for any sort of normal reason.
The guy is an abusive male and he does things for selfish reasons.
That's all there is to it.

Here's what former Cornton Vale prison governor Rhona Hotchkiss has to say about it.

news.stv.tv/scotland/ex-prison-governor-says-trans-rapist-isla-bryson-should-not-be-in-prison-at-all-female-cornton-vale

“I understand they are being held in segregation or isolation, however that can’t be sustained for more than 72 hours without the permission of Scottish ministers."

“If the person isn’t presenting an active threat to staff or prisoners, they have to be released into general circulation."

“I think I make of the situation what most reasonably-minded people would, it’s appalling. The thought that a double rapist can identify his way into a women’s prison should shock everyone."

“The other shocking aspect of that, of course, is the Scottish Parliament could have chosen to legislate against that happening and they didn’t."

Dickens Thu 26-Jan-23 01:13:15

I admit I'm not up to speed on transgender issues, but I have been pondering on and off during the evening...

If a man who has raped a woman (or more than one in this case) later identifies as a woman - what is he actually identifying with? What does he associate with ^womanhood that makes him want to identify with it?

This is not a facetious question - I genuinely don't understand. Because it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I understand individuals, men and women, not wanting to conform to stereotypes of either sex (I never have wanted to be a stereotypical woman either).

He's guilty of rape of women - and now wants to identify as one?

Callistemon21 Wed 25-Jan-23 23:02:12

You're not really paying attention

AttenShun!! All present and correct, Chief!
Chief - where are you Chief?

MawtheMerrier Wed 25-Jan-23 22:15:53

I mostly get smuggled over in a wee boat 🚢

Callistemon21 Wed 25-Jan-23 22:00:52

You don't move 500 miles south into another country

Did you need your passport at the border, MawtheMerrier?

MawtheMerrier Wed 25-Jan-23 21:57:03

volver

You're not really paying attention.

You don't move 500 miles south into another country and tell the people back home that you're ashamed of them for making their own decisions.

Like Peter Finch said in Network, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more" 😡

500 miles. ?

youtu.be/tbNlMtqrYS0

Urmstongran Wed 25-Jan-23 21:54:57

Callistemon21

^You don't move 500 miles south into another country and tell the people back home that you're ashamed of them for making their own decisions^.

Really? Why on earth not?

Others do that on GN all the time.

Exactly Calli. Nail on head.
I remember a poster who lived in Switzerland saying similar about the UK & Brexit quite frequently.
She often put the UK down!

Mollygo Wed 25-Jan-23 21:41:45

Galaxy

Lines have been crossed. Are you joking. There have been women raped by this man.

But VD doesn’t care about that as long as she can make her points. In one area, she is for once speaking the truth.
On the way home from work today, I listened to some Scottish woman (presumably female, but who knows in Scotland) who said that every case of where to house a prisoner is considered carefully and we must take into account the safety of the prisoner.
So the stupidity and lack of care for females (prisoners and staff) was already in place before the latest stupidity of GRC was even considered. Wee Nic just enhanced the potential for there to be more events like this rapist, realising his authentic self as a TW, by reducing the criteria for self ID.

Callistemon21 Wed 25-Jan-23 21:36:03

You don't move 500 miles south into another country and tell the people back home that you're ashamed of them for making their own decisions.

Really? Why on earth not?

Others do that on GN all the time.

Mollygo Wed 25-Jan-23 21:31:55

volver

Mollygo
VD
I'm starting to wonder what you are talking about, though...
Don’t worry about it VD. I’ve noticed some things will always be beyond your comprehension.
When they are literal nonsense I certainly don't understand them or the mind of the person who thinks them up...
Literal nonsense -Which is exactly how your posts appear, VD.

Callistemon21 Wed 25-Jan-23 21:05:36

MerylStreep

^i’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore^
Ooh, is anyone quaking in their boots ? 😂

😂😂😂

"I've been insulted in better places than this!!"

volver Wed 25-Jan-23 20:43:49

Nothing quite so sentimental as the Scots on Burns night.

Och, you should see me on Hogmanay.

Except you can't, because you don't live here any more.

MerylStreep Wed 25-Jan-23 20:40:11

i’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore
Ooh, is anyone quaking in their boots ? 😂

volver Wed 25-Jan-23 20:38:58

Oh good. Back to the vigilantism.

MerylStreep Wed 25-Jan-23 20:36:21

Dickens
The authorities can be as careful as the want: he will still be got at when the wardens just happen to be looking the other way 😉

Galaxy Wed 25-Jan-23 20:36:20

Oh I am paying attention alright.

volver Wed 25-Jan-23 20:33:54

You're not really paying attention.

You don't move 500 miles south into another country and tell the people back home that you're ashamed of them for making their own decisions.

Like Peter Finch said in Network, "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more" 😡

Galaxy Wed 25-Jan-23 20:29:57

Lines have been crossed. Are you joking. There have been women raped by this man.

volver Wed 25-Jan-23 20:28:24

What slagging off the land of your birth and the people who live in it? Aye, agreed.

Lines, as they say, have been crossed.

MawtheMerrier Wed 25-Jan-23 20:28:15

volver

I'm listening to Michael Marra singing Burns.

Everything else just seems daft just now.

Especially women who don't live here any more telling us what they think of us. Silly lassie.

(And no, there's been no whisky consumed.)

Nothing quite so sentimental as the Scots on Burns night.

Maybe you should have a dram or three Volver - sounds as if you need one.

Galaxy Wed 25-Jan-23 20:26:58

You would think the optics alone would make people stop and think is this an effective strategy.

volver Wed 25-Jan-23 20:17:34

No, folk deciding to go and live in another country and deciding they're ashamed of their former country. That's quite silly. Works both ways though.

Galaxy Wed 25-Jan-23 20:15:22

Yes that's what is silly here. Not people calling a Male rapist she.

volver Wed 25-Jan-23 20:13:02

I'm listening to Michael Marra singing Burns.

Everything else just seems daft just now.

Especially women who don't live here any more telling us what they think of us. Silly lassie.

(And no, there's been no whisky consumed.)

MawtheMerrier Wed 25-Jan-23 19:58:49

volver

MawtheMerrier

And you do have Nicola Sturgeon - says it all.

Aye - the leader of the party that nearly 50% voted for? What a country this is, giving people what they want...

Somebody asked me why I should feel ashamed of my country.
I think Volver has answered that question very succinctly
What a country this is, giving people what they want