Sometimes I am ashamed

Yes, including female prison officers Callistemon.

Smileless2012

I hope you're right Dickens and that as well as not sharing a cell with a natal woman, he will not be left unsupervised in any situation with natal women while in prison.

Including female prison officers.

I hope you're right Dickens and that as well as not sharing a cell with a natal woman, he will not be left unsupervised in any situation with natal women while in prison.

M0nica

I assume he will be isolated from other prisoners, not sharing a cell with natal women.

Or can I assume that, sigh.

I think the 'allocation' / isolation is done on a case-by-case basis after consideration by the various authorities involved, taking into account the facilities available.

I doubt this individual will be sharing a cell with a natal woman... regardless of the fact that he has now identified as a woman. She is probably a bit too 'high profile' now in the public awareness stakes so I would imagine the authorities are going to tread a bit carefully.

No, that is what I thought.

MOnica... I would assume nothing in this Brave New World!!!

I assume he will be isolated from other prisoners, not sharing a cell with natal women.

Or can I assume that, sigh.

The reason he is being sent to a female prison is that the authorities are living in fear that something 'bad' happens to him in a male prison.... they are keeping him safe.... who cares about the safety of women prisoners...
In a male prison he would be somebody's 'Mary' by breakfast next day... and we cant have that...can we??

Prisons don’t have enough room or staff to deal with this sort of thing.

Beggars belief he’s in a women’s prison now.
He ought to be in a prison compatible with his crimes.
Rape = men’s prison.
I bet he can’t believe his luck.

I don’t understand why people that are gender neutral have to be referred to as ‘they’ (I only realised this the other day).Surely you can only be one person at a time. Or maybe we should be like Germany and have make, female and neutral. I really am totally confused (it makes my brain hurt) by it although my older grandchildren seem to be more accepting of gender fluidity.

And we all know about “A Boy Named Sue”

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv05TdgIcQg

With apologies (but not many) to the Immortal Memory

(V 2)
“What tho with lippy (s)he is decked
With dresses, heels and a’ that
Wi’ bags and skirts instead of kecks
A man’s a man for a’ that
If there a willy
It’s no’ silly
Whate’er (s)he claims
And changes names
A man’s a man, for a’ that

So when 'identifying' as a man, did he choose the name John? If he was known as John when he committed the offence, he should be referred to as he and/or by that name during his trial.

I have posted on another thread my thoughts on SID.

Are we as a nation unconsciously aiding and abetting these men, going along with if you wear a dress and lippy you become a women?

It is medically impossible to change your chromosomes and your base physiology, whatever you call yourself or wear you will need the appropriate medical checkups throughout your life for your birth status. They will always have to have their birth status on their medical record for their own safety and good health when using the NHS

I really do not care how people dress or what they call themselves however, I do not want men however they dress in female only spaces.

Smileless2012

If a man accused of rape has taken the first name Marian of Sue, then they should be referred too by their surname. extreme not at all, especially for the victim confronting her alleged attacker in court who has to refer to him as she or her.

John Wayne's real name was Marian.

Not all is right Smileless2012 some women as well as men who are MP’s are so far into the wokery forest that they can’t see the wood for the trees.

Women in many countries are discussing their concerns on this issue. I think it was Belgium where some women were attacked recently whilst trying to demonstrate on this issue.

or Sue

If a man accused of rape has taken the first name Marian of Sue, then they should be referred too by their surname. extreme not at all, especially for the victim confronting her alleged attacker in court who has to refer to him as she or her.

But they are taking women's rights away and what does there being a large proportion of women members have to with it, any more than the leader of the SNP being a women?

Not all women appear to be concerned with women's rights do they.

Smileless2012

It's wrong in any circumstances for a male accused of rape to be referred to as she and/or to insist that they're addressed by their first name if it's a name only associated with women.

We're getting quite .... extreme now, aren't we?

What if they're called Marian? Or Sue?

the ability to self ID is going to attract many who do mean harm to women and girls.

Supposition. Has that happened in other countries where Self ID is allowed?

I don't care if you think my posts are becoming desperate. How dare you accuse me of putting my support for the Scottish Parliament ahead of concerns for women. People apparently think that a Parliament with a large proportion of women members are pursuing this line of thought because they want to take women's rights away.

I'll use a word I rarely use on here.

Paranoid.

Yes now it's an issue volver.

It's wrong in any circumstances for a male accused of rape to be referred to as she and/or to insist that they're addressed by their first name if it's a name only associated with women.