Shock result of latest polling

I hope you're right Casdon

I predict it will be a good turnout varian, I’ve never heard so many random people talking about politics before in my life, particularly younger people. Passions are running high, so unless things change before the election they are going to be holding back the queues to vote.

I actually think that there is a danger of complacency.

The Tories excel at mustering their vast financial resources to good effect.

They have the strong backing of many mysteriously funded right wing "Think Tanks" such as those based in Tufton Street.

They can count on the support of the right wing newspapers and their billionaire proprietors.

They are well able to flood social media with their message, often carefully targetted.

The re-drawing of constituency boundaries will increase the disparity in percentage votes and seats in their favour.

The new voter ID regulations will discourage many young people who would be likely to vote for other parties,

Sunak is not as chaotic, corrupt and dishonest as Johnson or as bonkers as Truss.

Before calling a general election money will be found which fell off the magic money tree and suddenly certain swing voters will be much better off.

So no-one who wants rid of the Tories should ever be complacent.

varian

Good way to persuade Labour voters to stay at home, WWM2

😄 that will never happen though. Wishful thinking.

Good way to persuade Labour voters to stay at home, WWM2

😄😄😄

Hyperbole, some here will say. What is just astonishing is that those words like 'ridiculous in the eyes of the world' 'tragedy' and 'run by the far right' etc, come from true one country Conservatives.

Max Hastings warned the Tory Party not to allow Boris Johnson to become its leader because he knew him to be totally unprincipled and a habitual liar. It's a pity they would not heed his warning.

He now tells us how the UK government and the country are considered ridiculous by our friends and allies across the world and again he is telling the truth.

This man has always been a staunch Tory, Editor of the Telegraph for over a decade. Incredible to hear someone like him say this

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It’s not going to happen. Yes, theoretically you’re right and the same would be true for any party without an overall majority, but another election would be called because a Labour/SNP pact wouldn’t and couldn’t work.

Casdon

Katie59

Satramer said live on radio last week that even if it meant another 5 years of Tory rule he would never work with the SNP .
If it’s a hung parliament he will work with whoever puts him in No 10 because it’s “in the national interest”.

What exactly are you trying to say Katie59, that you think Starmer has been fickle and changed his mind because he now thinks the Tories might challenge him at the next election so he will be forced to work with the SNP? Labour is a unionist party, so working with the SNP would be an absolute last resort, the Lib Dems would be closer bedfellows if it came to it. It’s just not going to happen though, is it?

If Starmer is leader of the largest party but without a majority it is his job to get agreement with another party to form a government.

In reality there are two options SNP or Libdems both of them have their own agendas that will dilute Labour policies, so he will compromise, the only alternative is to have another election.

Coffey, not Coffee.

It's hardly surprising the Tories are heading for a defeat. Today Therese Coffee suggested poor people might think about eating turnips rather than thinking about tomatoes, lettuce, etc.

Let them eat turnips. That really shows the Tories care, doesn't it?

How disgusting.

Katie59

Satramer said live on radio last week that even if it meant another 5 years of Tory rule he would never work with the SNP .
If it’s a hung parliament he will work with whoever puts him in No 10 because it’s “in the national interest”.

What exactly are you trying to say Katie59, that you think Starmer has been fickle and changed his mind because he now thinks the Tories might challenge him at the next election so he will be forced to work with the SNP? Labour is a unionist party, so working with the SNP would be an absolute last resort, the Lib Dems would be closer bedfellows if it came to it. It’s just not going to happen though, is it?

Satramer said live on radio last week that even if it meant another 5 years of Tory rule he would never work with the SNP .
If it’s a hung parliament he will work with whoever puts him in No 10 because it’s “in the national interest”.

He won't need that. Probably far fewer SNP MPs too.

That's what he says now paddyann54 but when it comes to it, if the only way he can be prime minister is with the backing of the SNP he will change his views.

Starmer ,(keyboard sticking)

Granny23 Satramer said live on radio last week that even if it meant another 5 years of Tory rule he would never work with the SNP .
Not that he'd be asked to !SNP have never voted on English only matters even before Camerons EVEL law.
Thats the EVEL law that stops Scottish MP's not only from voting on legislation that could have an effect on Scottish consequentials but Scottish MP's ever being PM .
Hoping we'll be walking out of the cesspit that is Westminster in the near future ,for a fairer,less corrupt ,more integrated Scotland in charge of ourselves.
Before our resident unionist comes out with more nonsense.the Scottish government has been subject to much praise about our NHS ...Best performing in the UK no strikes by nurses or ambulance staff and waiting lists lower than the rUK ...also much praise for the child payment meaning child poverty is more than 20% lower than in England ,the FACT that 10 years ago all of the "top ten"areas of most deprivation were in Scotland and now we aren't on the list ...all top ten are in England and much much more .All done on a fixed budget .
I know our resident unionist doesn't like these" handouts" she's said it before ,she'd prefer money going to the likes of Mone and Boris' pals .Most Scots think helping folk in need comes first
THATS why the SNP have won every election for a decade .
Hope all is well with you Granny 23

I remain baffled as to why most discussion on GN proceeds as if there were only 2 Political Parties in the UK

Isn't that because there are only two parties which are likely to win over all majorities, or be senior partner in a coalition?

I'd hope that other smaller parties do well in a GE, but I can't see it being a shock result on current polling.

I’m guessing people don’t think that what you suggest is actually a likely outcome Granny23? It could change dramatically between now and the election, but as it stands currently Labour will have a majority.

I started this thread. For me the most surprising finding was that

^A NEW poll has found that the Conservatives would become Westminster’s third party behind the SNP in a snap election. A poll of 28,000 people for The Telegraph found that if there were an imminent General Election then the Tories would be left with fewer seats than the SNP.

This would mean that SNP Leader, Stephen Flynn would become the leader of the opposition^

I am surprised that in all the posts and discussion, no one has mentioned this aspect of the findings, nor the (perhaps more likely?) scenario, whereby Labour is just short of a clear majority and does a deal whereby the SNP (and maybe Plaid) support Labour, in return for permission to hold an Independence Referendum.

I remain baffled as to why most discussion on GN proceeds as if there were only 2 Political Parties in the UK

Growstuff seems to think a service economy with ever shrinking productivity is enough, the last 50 yrs has proved that it isn’t.
The experiment has failed.

Katie59

growstuff

Katie59

I want the government to borrow more to expand the economy, in recent times it has borrowed to support the population, as far as I can see that is going to continue with no proper business plan.

That does not mean more employment it means better employment by the use of new technology and automation. The so called service economy has only resulted in a decline in living standards especially for the poorest, or can someone point were it has benefited us

What do you mean by "so called"? What else would you like the provision of services to be called?

Providing services to other people benefits everybody's lifestyle. .

Try telling that to be 23% of the population below the poverty line. Or nurses that are struggling with real wage cuts, you are so out of touch.

That is why, Katie59, the government needs to pay decent public sector wages and increase benefits to help with the cost of living crisis. They are withholding money for no good reason and depressing the economy.

I think that growstuff has a very good understanding of how an economy should work. In fact, I don't 'think' it, I know she does.

The UK is a rich country (still) with an unacceptable, increasing gap between the haves and have nots. There's not much pride left in being British. I just can't wait to get this bunch of clowns out of power and Labour (or anyone else) in charge.