Capital Punishment

If anybody killed my child I'd want the killer's goolies (where applicable) cut off with rusty tinsnips and the living disembowelled body hung upside down in a public rubbish dump to slowly bleed to death while being abused by members of the public.

But that, I came to realise, was precisely why emotion should be kept out of justice. I know it feels wrong, that justice should be cold and free of emotion, but that is how it has to be.

I'm not often given to quoting Tolkien but one quote struck me hard when I first read The Lord of the Rings (aged 15) and it has stuck with me ever since:

"Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to deal out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends."

A very foolish, unconsidered remark.

I think we all get a bit wavery when children are murdered - at the time I think I could cheerfully strangle a child killer given the chance, but of course couldn't really.

No from me. I've sat through enough criminal trials in my working life to see how juries can easily be swung on one piece of evidence. (I know there are appeals processes etc, but still...) I do think there are some crimes for which a whole life sentence is the only appropriate one though.

Should be 'whole life' sentences in 2nd para.

I also think that a life sentence should mean just that. Life.
Capital punishment won't happen in this day and age I don't think.

Judges can give out 'whole life' tariffs for murder - I think the piece of shit rapist/murderer Met policeman got one. We all know his name but I don't say it.
While life sentences are not unknown but there are criteria to be fulfilled.
Carrick's sentence is under review as too lenient, it seems.
And we should never forget Timothy Evans and Derek Bentley. Even now there are those who argue the two were both guilty and the sentences were correct. Truly appalling but I wonder if Lee might be amongst those people.

I don't agree with capital punishment either but I do waver a little when children are killed. I agree with other posters when they say a life sentence should be carried through.

There are some crimes where it would be appropriate for the offender to stay in prison for life. These are the most heinous crimes that are committed. It happened with Hindley and Brady, they stayed inside until they died, but I wonder if they would have done if they were convicted today.

Just remember, when the death sentence was used prison officers used to have to carry them out. It isn’t just the condemned person that suffers.

Don't agree with capital punishment but life should be life, sentences should be consecutive. Don't understand why they're not.
I think you need to give prisoners some concessions, otherwise they would be difficult to manage in prison, and you can take privileges away if they misbehave.

No.

Riverwalk

Lee Anderson is just a big-mouthed oaf - I wonder how long he'll last in his new job.

It’s gone well beyond scraping the bottom of the barrel, hasn’t it

I'm with henetha. Life sentences should be so.

Lee Anderson is just a big-mouthed oaf - I wonder how long he'll last in his new job.

No, I’ve always been totally anti the death penalty.
However, I did have stirrings of feelings of revenge regarding that filth Carrick.
But, I never thought I’d say these words, but hanging is too good for him.

Timothy Evans. Derek Bentley and many others , innocent but hanged

Yes you can't reverse a death sentence once it's been carried out.

However many sentences are not tough enough. A whole life sentence should be exactly that.

It won't happen. Capital Punishment has been relegated to the history books in the UK.

Definitely not.

Loss of liberty for life ought to be a real punishment. I do think we are too soft on killers. Look at Myra Hindley - conducting a lesbian relationship in prison for example. Other examples are available but you all know what I’m getting at. Prison needs to be a very tough deterrent and voters know it isn’t. We read about drugs and mobile phones, games consoles etc and ask ourselves ‘who’s the daftest?’

This is why some people want the death penalty back.

No never, two wrongs will never make a right.

Prison with no release is appropriate for heinous crimes like murder, violent rape, terrorism.

Yes Calli but he was appointed as deputy Tory party chair…..

Timothy Evans. Derek Bentley and many others , innocent but
hanged

Farzanah

The party is apparently intent on a path of self distraction.

Is it party policy or one maverick MP?

We must be fair
(Yes, really! 😀)

current concurrent

Autocorrect!

Farzanah I see what you did there 😆 nice!