Capital Punishment

Iam64

MarianneF - it’s isn’t “do gooders’ and it isn’t ‘home comforts’. Only those with no experience or understanding of how it’s possible to run prisons with minimal violence could make I’ll informed comments like that

This.
Capital punishment has no place in a civilised society. For those who want to witness punishment why not consider the death sentence as the easy option compared to a long prison sentence.

MarianneF - it’s isn’t “do gooders’ and it isn’t ‘home comforts’. Only those with no experience or understanding of how it’s possible to run prisons with minimal violence could make I’ll informed comments like that

Hithere

Some people do not deserve to live - if no remorse, reincident crimes, ...

For some cases, I say yes

Wayne Cousens, the evil moron who killed Sarah Everard, I could send him on his way, where there is no doubt, due to forensic science, why should taxpayers keep them alive, for what purpose?

As I mentioned before…too many ‘do gooders’ would make sure that even the most evil of killers were given their home comforts. I very much doubt anybody in this day and age suffers sufficiently in prison. I wish to add, I’m not wholly in favour of CP. There have been some appalling misjudgements in the past, but using poor Lee Rigby as an example, is there anyone out there who would have gladly seen his executioners get their just desserts? In my opinion, imprisonment is far to good for them.

Timothy Evans, Ruth Ellis both appalling judgements of their day! When a woman who had literally been abused and humiliated appallingly by a man and had just suffered an horrendous miscarriage sentenced to hang as she had the temerity to shoot said monster in her deranged state of mind. You think this would happen today?
Poor Timothy Evans , bullied and intimidated by police of the time ex soldiers probably from WW1 hard unintelligent but police force mostly made up of ex forces at that time when class was ALL and beating a confession was run of the mill with steel trap made up minds of prejudiced old men made for a guilty verdict. You think this is a fair representation of our system now? Think again. Unless a rational accurate and intelligent case for not resurrecting death penalty is made, the risk is run for mob mentality to run wild. Simply in knocking off the guilty is not punishment, they need to live a long miserable life regretting their crimes.happily Moors monster was forced to be held in mental health facilities to enable forced feeding otherwise he may have died in a prison . Played him at his own game to great effect, no silent slipping away for that piece of work

Absolutely not!

All sentencing should be tougher. Life should mean life and no privileges. Judges should be aware of public sentiment and perhaps the laws themselves reconsidered. After all ‘the law’ doesn’t always equal real justice these days.

albertina

My daughter and her husband have taken in the two children of a friend of the family. Their mother was murdered by their father. She took the children to school and returned home. Her husband was there. She told him she had met someone else and wanted a divorce. She had put up with years of violence and intimidation and had had enough.
He took a kitchen knife and killed her. He got 19 years. 19 years for the life of his wife. He destroyed her life and that of her children. 19 years is just not long enough for such a callous and dreadful crime.
Hanging ? No. I am old enough to remember the days when people were hanged and it felt awful. Timothy Evans was enough on his own to stop it.

Your daughter and her family have done a very good thing Albertina.

I know of another case where a man murdered his wife and their child was brought up by the wife's brother and wife as part of their own family. His adoption was successful, but perhaps because he was very young at the time of the tragedy.

i hope it works out well for your daughter and husband.

i don't agree with the death sentence, i think anybody who deserves this should be made to stay in prison for the rest of there life and to suffer every day for what they have done, the death sentence to me would be the easy way out for some of them.

Riverwalk and HPQ.
They will NEVER get over it,they may not even get through their loss.
They don`t HAVE to choose either.
But ,when the murderer is free to walk the earth,i don``t think i could cope.
An eye for an eye imo,turn the other cheek ?,not in my opinion.

My daughter and her husband have taken in the two children of a friend of the family. Their mother was murdered by their father. She took the children to school and returned home. Her husband was there. She told him she had met someone else and wanted a divorce. She had put up with years of violence and intimidation and had had enough.
He took a kitchen knife and killed her. He got 19 years. 19 years for the life of his wife. He destroyed her life and that of her children. 19 years is just not long enough for such a callous and dreadful crime.
Hanging ? No. I am old enough to remember the days when people were hanged and it felt awful. Timothy Evans was enough on his own to stop it.

timetogo2016

I agree with usernametaken.
The whole history of a family changes when someone is killed.
THAT imo deserves the death penalty when it is 100% proven.
In the case of Ian Huntley fir instance he was 100% guilty.
He imo should have the death penalty OR the parents who`s child has been killed could decide.

And how do you think killing another person's child will help a family to get over the murder of their own child?

No. There were numerous miscarriages of justice while it was still the law.

As has already been said I think there would be fewer in favour of the death penalty, if life meant life.

Whilst I could never agree with the death penalty, I think that a life sentence should mean just that, and that the length of sentences in general should reflect the severity of the crime, which I don't think is always the case at present.

timetogo2016

I agree with usernametaken.
The whole history of a family changes when someone is killed.
THAT imo deserves the death penalty when it is 100% proven.
In the case of Ian Huntley fir instance he was 100% guilty.
He imo should have the death penalty OR the parents who`s child has been killed could decide.

Well what a terrible burden to place on the parents of a murdered child.

As if they don't have enough to cope with and to think about for the rest of their lives.

I agree with usernametaken.
The whole history of a family changes when someone is killed.
THAT imo deserves the death penalty when it is 100% proven.
In the case of Ian Huntley fir instance he was 100% guilty.
He imo should have the death penalty OR the parents who`s child has been killed could decide.

Absolutely never. I will never accept the state committing legalised murder in my name.
However. Life in prison should mean just that. And forget all the going to prison is the punishment bit. Life prisoners should be uncomfortable every day and not allowed to forget what they have done.
But I also disagree with a mandatory life sentence for murder. There are many cases when it is totally inappropriate ie a woman who finally snaps after years of abuse. She should not have the burden of a life sentence round her neck - even though the judge may be lenient with the actual sentence.

I know how you feel Stephania1954 for horrible cases where there is no doubt at all who did the murder.

There’s been miscarriages of justice tho in the past, and people were executed who were innocent of the crime.
For some crimes the criminal should never ever be back in society.

Janetashbolt

I watched am American prog on the death penalty. Theory was it's not a deterent because A they don't think they will be caught or B it's a spontaneous crime without thought of the outcome.

Yeah! Hardly works as a deterrent in the US does it?

Mental illness is an excuse ?

addictions and mental health excuses? Hmm.

Further to my previous post regarding ownership of prisons, the USA actually has a mix, with the majority in public/state ownership, so apologies for not doing my research. Interestingly though, there are a few privately run prisons in the UK now.

I think I would support the return of the death sentence. In my opinion it wouldn’t be a deterrent it would be a statement from society that this behaviour is not acceptable and the person found guilty is removed.
I read some horrific reports of crimes where people get basically a slap on the wrist and a sentence of ten years ( 5 ) for putting a child through years of torture. I would never let them out. They should be sterilised never allowed to have children.
And then there is the addictions and mental health excuses really it is to easy to make an excuse for a heinous crime and then a softer sentence.
Using a machete to hack to death a soldier in broad daylight really do they deserve to be alive. There would be no mistake of guilt in that case
Yes we are human but some people don’t seem to show any humility and we don’t need them and I am loath to support them or try to rehabilitate so that they can be released and commit some similar atrocities again

I agree with the many people on here who say that life should be life. What used to be a death sentence can now be as little as 15 years in prison. Death penalty can never be right, it brutalises society and does not reduce crime, but yes, some people should never see the light of day.

Never. Living for years with the consequences of the crime a greater punishment than a life cut short.