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Nicola Sturgeon quitting as FM

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Oreo Thu 16-Feb-23 13:16:52

As the other thread about Nicola Sturgeon stepping down from role as FM has been deleted due to comments about a poster leaving the site, thought I’d start a new one just to discuss Scottish politics for those who want to comment.
It’s big enough news after all.

nanna8 Sat 18-Feb-23 03:31:13

I think she should leave completely and not remain in parliament. She will haunt whoever gets her job , the nature of the beast. I could see a future for her as some sort of ambassador because she is strong minded and has a feisty mouth. Maybe Russia?

Aveline Fri 17-Feb-23 18:42:01

Sillers said it all. I do miss the older generation of MSPs. Margo McDonald and Annabel Goldie to name but two. Both very approachable. From different parties but able to communicate constructively. It so confrontational and aggressive these days.

Callistemon21 Fri 17-Feb-23 17:40:21

Nicola eclipsed them all
That is interesting Aveline

I heard Jim Sillars saying much the same on TV.

He is reported as saying:
Nicola is now history. My concern is what the party does. And I hope the lesson the party has learned from the Sturgeon years is the cult of personality is damaging to policymaking and always ends in tears.

And I hope whoever becomes the next leader of the party will not fall into the same trap as the Salmond/Sturgeon era did in creating the cult of personality, which means that you don't listen to critical voices. And if you don't listen to critical voices, you make strategic errors. And that's what's happened with Nicola.

Aveline Fri 17-Feb-23 17:30:06

I agree Oreo. Things are bad and we need to work together more than ever for the benefit of everyone in UK. I'm impressed by Sarwar. He could be FM but only after another election.
Of the SNP potential contenders I really couldn't say. Nicola eclipsed them all and didn't risk giving anyone a chance to shine.

Oreo Fri 17-Feb-23 14:12:03

Aveline I know from your posts you’re in Scotland and no fan of NS, who would you prefer to be the next FM?
Is there somebody who would concentrate more on getting things right for Scottish people than going all out for another referendum, or is that impossible?
Seems to me that people everywhere in UK want quiet government and no grandstanding.

Aveline Thu 16-Feb-23 21:49:41

Time will tell micmc47.

micmc47 Thu 16-Feb-23 21:44:26

I suspect that we may not yet have seen the full story as regards the reason for her resignation. Perhaps some effective






investigative journalism may clarify matters.

Callistemon21 Thu 16-Feb-23 21:14:42

2022: The UK was 5th on the list of wealthiest nations.

Scotland certainly has a high number of billionaires.

Grannmarie Thu 16-Feb-23 20:57:54

Urmstongran

Maybe not 6th paddyanne.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/13150012.scotland-14th-richest-country-world-say-snp/

Urms, this article is from 2014...

Grannmarie Thu 16-Feb-23 20:55:11

I love how it depicts the possible contenders, especially Kate Forbes,
(Professor Sir Tom Devine's choice) with her new baby in a sling.

Grannmarie Thu 16-Feb-23 20:51:54

I like this one...
You might have to enlarge it, I'm not sure why it's not showing full cartoon?

Callistemon21 Thu 16-Feb-23 20:42:01

Yes, 14th now.
And is some of that that wealth from oil and gas?

The core policy of the National party of Scotland from its inception was Independence
I always understood that was the case.
Ms Sturgeon going will not change that.

Urmstongran Thu 16-Feb-23 20:10:05

Maybe not 6th paddyanne.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/13150012.scotland-14th-richest-country-world-say-snp/

paddyann54 Thu 16-Feb-23 20:03:32

The core policy of the National party of Scotland from its inception was Independence.It was started by Robert Bontine Cunningham Graham who was also a co founder of the Labour party with Keir Hardie ...who had Home Rule for SCOTLAND as one of its core policies .
Its been around a long time had many leaders and no doubt will have many more.
Independence is grass roots led ,its not Nicola Sturgeon who ramps it up its people ,ordinary folk ,shop assistants ,teachers ,nurses ,doctors Lawyers army veterans and anyone I've missed The Independence movement is not just one person but we are sad to lose our very competent leader though she will still be in Holyrood and part of the fight for our freedom

We just want what other countries world wide want...control of our own country and finances .We are the 6th richest country in the world .We 'd rather make our own mistakes than have westminster ones foisted on us

Aveline Thu 16-Feb-23 19:53:42

SiL sent me this spoof pic. Funny but not funny!

Urmstongran Thu 16-Feb-23 19:41:47

I read that Nicola Sturgeon might be wanting a life on the international stage - maybe the UN?

Oreo Thu 16-Feb-23 19:39:17

It’s said that Theresa May had a friendly phone call with her to say there’s still life on the back benches.
It must feel strange tho to sit there when you’ve been leading things for quite a while.
Most never want to give up the power and the kudos while some are relieved to live a more normal life.

Urmstongran Thu 16-Feb-23 19:27:20

Thanks Parsley! I love these from Janey Godley.
Apparently she and Nicola are pals in RL.

Parsley3 Thu 16-Feb-23 19:17:38

twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1625978484076998659?t=08k-GX2zGFoMv-t9pm9XQQ&s=19

Nicola Sturgeon outlines her future plans and Frank gets the door.

Callistemon21 Thu 16-Feb-23 15:18:24

Riverwalk

GrannyGravy13

I can only hope her departure means the likelihood of Scotland leaving the union is on the back burner.

I think we are stronger together and leaving the EU has shown what a minefield leaving can be.

Er, so why were we not 'stronger together' in the EU?

I doubt if leaving the Union is on the back burner.

Er, so why were we not 'stronger together' in the EU?
I thought that was what GrannyGravy said?

Or is leaving the EU not a minefield?

Callistemon21 Thu 16-Feb-23 15:16:13

GrannyGravy13

I can only hope her departure means the likelihood of Scotland leaving the union is on the back burner.

I think we are stronger together and leaving the EU has shown what a minefield leaving can be.

I'm not sure because the Scottish National Party policy is independence for Scotland, isn't it? No doubt someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
However, it might not play quite such a prominent part and perhaps those Scots who do not want independence may feel that other, more urgent, issues may receive more attention now.
Perhaps if the UK does manage to reforge some closer links with the EU then Scottish independence might be abandoned altogether.

Ms Sturgeon did look very strained recently and, if she has had threats, those making such vile threats must be found and prosecuted.

Boz Thu 16-Feb-23 14:48:22

Nancy Pelosi went through the same trauma; death threats and then the attack on her husband when they were looking for her. She looked drained,as did NS, before she left.

GrannyGravy13 Thu 16-Feb-23 14:42:43

Forsythia

I felt she was a strong advocate for a female politician who was impassioned about her beliefs and led from the front. She was/is a divisive character but, as a woman who got to the top, she should be admired however grudgingly. Politics is not an easy career for a woman. Her politics did not impact me directly as I live in England.

I admire anyone who stands for parliament under the circumstances.

Their private lives are no longer private, their families are under scrutiny also, not a career I would aspire to.

Mollygo Thu 16-Feb-23 14:42:25

The papers have had a field day over this, I notice.

AGAA4
I agree with your comment.
I think NS has done the right thing. When you feel you have no more to give then it's for the best that you leave. I admire her for not hanging on as other politicians have done when they should have gone.
Though I don’t doubt the speculation and the investigative reports will come forward with more reasons for her departure.

Grammaretto Thu 16-Feb-23 14:41:54

I live in Scotland and I realise this isn't representative at all but I mentioned NS to my hairdresser today and he was incensed by her allowing those convicted transgender rapists to be confined in a women's jail.

I tried to tell him that once NS knew she put a stop to it but he was adamant that she agreed with it. So there, by a majority of one, her popularity was gone.

Who would be a politician? or a hairdresser