You almost have to feel sorry for Rushi!

MaizieD

It might have only 54 members, Casdon but how about its allies? And Johnson's allies? Johnson is anti it, too...

What is the tory majority now, 70ish? Not difficult to erode.

If I was Sunak I would take the gamble, because it’s his best chance of survival, and I believe the only route to victory at the next election the Tories could possibly have is to move towards the centre. Realistic membership estimates for the ERG are nearer to 35, so 54 is the absolute maximum. It’s scary that in the constituency parties there is still support for Johnson, but I wonder whether it’s more about his charisma and therefore his electability than his alleged position on the right and his ERG membership?

Casdon

Fleurpepper

So Rees-Mogg has finally said it- the PM cannot broker any Deal with the approval of the ERG!!!

Without do you mean not with?
Surely JRM is bluffing, because the ERG allegedly only has (top estimate) 54 members which means that in reality it doesn’t have the sway he alleges it has.

Oops, yes, posted in haste as may student was ringing the door bell.

It might have only 54 members, Casdon but how about its allies? And Johnson's allies? Johnson is anti it, too...

What is the tory majority now, 70ish? Not difficult to erode.

Fleurpepper

So Rees-Mogg has finally said it- the PM cannot broker any Deal with the approval of the ERG!!!

Without do you mean not with?
Surely JRM is bluffing, because the ERG allegedly only has (top estimate) 54 members which means that in reality it doesn’t have the sway he alleges it has.

So Rees-Mogg has finally said it- the PM cannot broker any Deal with the approval of the ERG!!!

Well, they were clearly warned what the Deal would mean, by all the top experts, and that Johnson was totally dishonest about promising no checks. Clear as a bell. and Arlene Foster took the massive bribes, to support him. What did they expect would happen? It was always crystal clear.

I'm not getting into an argument about it.
I don't agree with DUP in everything but they are right about this. They also have support in other unionist parties.

nadateturbe

^I get the impression that many NI businesses are perfectly happy with what they have now as they can trade freely with the EU.^

Many aren't.

And can I remind people we are part of the UK.
I would rather be in the EU of course. But the UK left. The DUP have a valid complaint.

But they knew exactly what Johnson's Deal would mean for NI, and took the massive bung to support him. So NO, they do not have a valid complaint.

Haha- and Ramblingrose22

Good points HousePlantQueen

Ramblingrose22

Poor BoJo - literally and figuratively.

He needs friends to give him money /loans all the time. If he's earning so much money from his speeches, what on earth is he doing with it all to need further financial support?

Even worse, he's been out of the limelight for too long and that would never do! Even if he agreed with proposals that Sunak supports he would say that he didn't just to grab a headline.

An impecunious, mendacious and narcissistic PM is the last thing this country needs. I have my doubts about Sunak but I really hope he makes some progress to repair the mess BoJo left behind and I'd love to see BoJo deprived of the Whip if he votes against the Sunak Government so make it a 3-liner Rishi!

Well that saved me writing a post. Thank you.

Witzend

Quokka

He picked up the poisoned chalice because he wanted to be PM. Ambition. No sympathy.

Personally I admire anyone with the guts to take on the post-Boris/Truss mess, knowing very well that the Tories are almost certainly going to be wiped out at the next general election.

(Mods, please correct the OP’s title!)

Oh, I thought the spelling - (Rushi) was deliberate.....!?

MawtheMerrier

Well Rishi is spot on with his comments on rewriting Dahl
“the PM agrees with the BFG that we shouldn’t gobblefunk around with words”

👍👏

Well Rishi is spot on with his comments on rewriting Dahl
“the PM agrees with the BFG that we shouldn’t gobblefunk around with words”

eazybee

Sunak solving the Northern Ireland trading agreement??
At what cost?
I have no sympathy for him at all; he schemed and connived his way into being Prime Minister, through vaulting ambition, and he is way out of his depth.

Well he is not the one who has caused this massive mess. But who else do you expect to solve this???

I'm still amazed that the U.K. think they can re-do this agreement, the E.U. has given enough time to Brexit and has
other more pressing concerns.

And no, not even a little bit sorry for R.

I get the impression that many NI businesses are perfectly happy with what they have now as they can trade freely with the EU.

Many aren't.

And can I remind people we are part of the UK.
I would rather be in the EU of course. But the UK left. The DUP have a valid complaint.

I agree ramblingrose, Sunak needs to put Johnson in his place which is on the back benches, remove the whip from him if necessary. Johnson is a dangerous man and needs to be dealt with.

Poor BoJo - literally and figuratively.

He needs friends to give him money /loans all the time. If he's earning so much money from his speeches, what on earth is he doing with it all to need further financial support?

Even worse, he's been out of the limelight for too long and that would never do! Even if he agreed with proposals that Sunak supports he would say that he didn't just to grab a headline.

An impecunious, mendacious and narcissistic PM is the last thing this country needs. I have my doubts about Sunak but I really hope he makes some progress to repair the mess BoJo left behind and I'd love to see BoJo deprived of the Whip if he votes against the Sunak Government so make it a 3-liner Rishi!

Just one point: the claims that the vaccination programme was a success as a result of Brexit really, really annoys me. Are we to believe that those who voted to leave the EU in June 2016 anticipated covid19 and knew that UK would be better off out? Really?

I am not a great fan of Sunak, but at least he is not an embarrassment on the world stage, doesn't consort with Russians, and pays for his own holidays. What state to be in when this is a bonus, when it should be a given.

He didn't stand a chance yet had the guts to take it on. He might not succeed but he has tried ,whilst a lot of other M.P.s wouldn't have taken on the poisoned chalice.
At least he'll go down in History as Britain's first coloured Prime minister at a time when most countries are calling for equality for all.

Wyllow3

Fleurpepper

Do you have sympathe for the DUP, Johnson and the ERG who will do everything to scupper the GFA? Really?

fb.watch/iP67NNKuN1/

No, I don't. It appears that its only the DUP getting int he way of a reasonable solution that all other NI parties want. They are now a minority, but large enough to scupper matters.

I get the impression that many NI businesses are perfectly happy with what they have now as they can trade freely with the EU.
(I wonder if NI has a shortage of tomatoes...)

I suspect that Rishi will be in trouble if he gets the new agreement through as he can only do it with the support of Labour. He'll also be in trouble if he can't, because he'll be completely at the mercy of the Brexit loons and Johnson.

I suspect the 1922 committee are looking hard at their rules...

GrannyGravy13

The U.K. ceased to be a member of the EU on 31/01/2020, Laura Kuenssberg probably meant the U.K. was in the transition period which ended on 32/12/2020.

Technically LK was and is wrong.

While in the transition period, during which time the vaccine rollout occurred, the UK was still operating under EU regulation.

The full horror of leaving the EU hadn't then come into play...

My vet told me last week that they are poised to change the 13 page dog travel forms back to the old passport system if the Nothern Ireland agreement comes off. 🤞 Go Rishi!